February 27, 2023 in 

In this episode, Katische follows Harry’s advice and returns to the Balmoral/Balmain Cemetery to find the ghost that Harry knows is still there. The only thing Katische knows is he has the letter “D” in his name.

With thanks to Dawn Catena for her assistance with this episode.

Transcript
Katische Haberfield:

This week, we,

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uh, listening to another session

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with Megan Jones, maybe Megan Jones,

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as we attempt to connect with.

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Dennis in the afterlife.

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If you were listening last week,

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you'd listened to the session

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where we crossed over Dennis, as he

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followed me home from the cemetery.

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He refused to cross over at the time

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that I found him in the cemetery.

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And attached to my heart.

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I happen to have a session with Dawn.

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And because she's such a skilled

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communicator and medium herself.

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I asked her to kindly cross him over.

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Because it was a little

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shaken from the experience.

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So if you haven't listened to

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that episode, It's just a short

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one, go back and listen to that.

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And then you can come and listen to

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the afterlife discussions with Dennis.

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megan spirit releasement during mediumship 1:

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I'm, I, right now I'm feeling

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a male coming through.

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Good.

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He feels strict stern and.

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Yeah, he definitely, he feels

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like just really like, I said,

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like really strict, really just

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things have to be done this way.

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Very orderly.

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Definitely not one you'd

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push around . Okay.

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Kinda my way or the highway.

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Okay.

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And is he

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somebody that I have crossed over?

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megan spirit releasement during mediumship 1:

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Yes.

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Yes.

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Okay.

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So

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I've seen this name somewhere on

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your list, so I don't know if this

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is, they're just throwing that

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name to make a connection to that

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person, or if this is who they are.

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But I'm seeing the name or Dalton, and

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I know that's like a middle name or

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something on that list, but, I'm not sure.

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I just wanna, I wanna mention

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it in case it's relevant.

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Hang on.

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And it also could just be the

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D, Sometimes they throw a name

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so that I, Can I catch a letter?

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Was that their middle name

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or is the D from the middle?

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That's, Yes, that's the

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name that's coming in.

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But like I said, I don't know if

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this is actually that person or if

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they're just connected to that person.

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Okay.

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Sorry, I

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wanna ask is a specific question

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which will help me identify, did

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this person attach to me at a c.

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Yes.

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. So I'm guessing we've

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got James Dennis White.

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Okay.

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Who I've just been spending

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the morning doing research on.

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Probably some ER questions.

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Yeah.

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It's weird the way that because we

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have to validate differently, the

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information comes to me and thinks

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that they know that I would reference.

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And there's not a whole

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lot I would reference.

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And I've started picking up on that

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as we've done more sessions, is

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they'll give me things that they know.

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I can say that you'll

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basically puzzle it together.

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So that's why I was like, it could just

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be the D that they're trying to get.

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Okay.

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So this.

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If we're gonna go with identification

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and he needs to give us some help.

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Now this is the boy that Harry,

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not the boy, the man that Harry

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said that I had to go back to

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the cemetery define and all that.

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Harry, do you know what I mean?

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Now you got the D originally?

Megan Jones:

Yeah.

Katische Haberfield:

Okay.

Katische Haberfield:

So this is James Dennis White and

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I went to the cemetery looking for

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the letter D and then found James.

Megan Jones:

And ah, yeah.

Megan Jones:

So he's bringing us back full circle.

Katische Haberfield:

Yep.

Megan Jones:

Cause he

Megan Jones:

gave us d last time too.

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Yep.

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That's all he gave us to start with.

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And then he attached to me and we did that

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video with Dawn, where I crossed him over.

Megan Jones:

Yeah.

Megan Jones:

This is definitely him.

Megan Jones:

I'm feeling like all this is like a yes.

Megan Jones:

It feels like a yes in my heart space.

Katische Haberfield:

Okay.

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All right.

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Now I have been researching

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him this morning, so I want

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him to tell me something.

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That he knows that I've just seen

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this morning in the documentation.

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Cause I know they, they can

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see what I've been doing.

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What have I downloaded or looked

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at or found interesting this

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morning or something that he can

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tell me in the documents that I've

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been reading as an identifier?

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First he's saying that there's

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something with his name.

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There's something

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particular with his name.

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I also feel like he might have

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a shared name with someone,

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like a family, like

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his name was passed on.

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But I do feel like he just keeps

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bringing attention to his name.

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So I don't want to assume what he

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means by that, but he definitely

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is bringing attention to his name.

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There's something that he shares with

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me cause he know what he shares with me.

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If it's him, something very

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specific that we share in common.

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Yeah, he's not bringing it up right now.

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Let's see if it just comes.

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Let's see if it comes through.

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At the more that we talk.

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Yeah, let's just talk.

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It's just something that I noticed and I,

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when I noticed it, it's I was like, Ooh,

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there's gotta be some connection here

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because this is one of those dile moments

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when I noticed something on his record.

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But yeah, let's see what the story

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is and let's see what he has to say.

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And then if it's not him, it's not him.

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But as soon as you said that strict

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personality it's I felt the, because

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of the military vibes, right?

Katische Haberfield:

Yeah.

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There's definitely mil military bobs

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just like that that very disciplined

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kind of personality that he's showing me.

Megan Jones:

It also feels there's

Megan Jones:

def, there's also like a mean streak.

Megan Jones:

And that he has, or that

Megan Jones:

he had, and I don't know.

Megan Jones:

It feels like that definitely

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grew the older he got especially

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in the afterlife for sure.

Megan Jones:

Like before he was crossed, but

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it just, Yeah, he feels very,

Megan Jones:

I don't know, not approachable,

Megan Jones:

if that makes sense.

Katische Haberfield:

Okay.

Katische Haberfield:

Not approachable.

Katische Haberfield:

Okay.

Katische Haberfield:

So if he's not approachable, then

Megan Jones:

but he is

Megan Jones:

wanting to talk to us.

Katische Haberfield:

He's

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wanting to talk to us.

Megan Jones:

Yeah.

Megan Jones:

Okay.

Megan Jones:

Yeah.

Megan Jones:

A lot of times they will show us

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that because that's just who they

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were and they want us to know that.

Megan Jones:

Okay.

Katische Haberfield:

One of the things

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that I would like to know is that I

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noticed that he is born at the same era

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and the same time, and fighting in the

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same war as the other military gentlemen

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that we have been speaking with, but

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on he would be on the other side.

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So they were on not the other side.

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No, they were, they, These were the

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other ones were all British soldiers

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fighting in the uk and he was British,

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born in Australia, British, and then

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fought on behalf of the Australians.

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And so I'm just trying to see,

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there's, I feel like there's some

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connection between him and the

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other guys, whether he knew it or.

Megan Jones:

It does feel like

Megan Jones:

there's a connection, like he is

Megan Jones:

making me feel like you're right.

Megan Jones:

That there is a connection.

Katische Haberfield:

Especially

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it feels especially with George.

Katische Haberfield:

Okay.

Katische Haberfield:

Yeah, that's what I was thinking.

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George particularly yeah, I haven't

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sat down and analyzed the battalions

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that they were all with and maybe

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they're in the same battalion.

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It's the stuff that I'll do later on.

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But yeah, I just wanted to, see if

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a name came up and is he wanting

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to talk to us about his time

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in the military or his time as.

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He spent a long time just

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as a normal civilian married

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and all that sort of stuff.

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What's the most impactful

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thing that happened in his life

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in terms of his experience?

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Is it the military stuff or is it

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the, being in a normal person trying

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to live back in normal society when

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you're not in the military anymore?

Megan Jones:

A little bit of both.

Megan Jones:

He's saying he was definitely his

Megan Jones:

words cut from the military cloth.

Megan Jones:

But when it feels like he had to, it feels

Megan Jones:

like there was some kind of discharge.

Megan Jones:

I'm not, it doesn't whatever the,

Megan Jones:

reason it I it, feels like it was

Megan Jones:

out of his control that he didn't he

Megan Jones:

didn't want to leave the military,

Megan Jones:

but he had to, is how it feels to me.

Katische Haberfield:

And so it was

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very hard for him to try to live in

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a normal life especially because he

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feels like being part of the military.

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He felt like that was part of who he was.

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It fit his personality.

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It, he liked the structure,

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he liked the discipline.

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He liked the, brotherhood.

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So I feel like when he was, when he had

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to leave the military, that was a big,

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turning point that caused him to harbor

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a lot of anger and a lot of resentment.

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What ? I feel like he was gay.

Katische Haberfield:

Oh, okay.

Katische Haberfield:

Even though he married a socialite?

Megan Jones:

For sure.

Megan Jones:

I feel like that was never he,

Megan Jones:

never admitted that out loud

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and not even to himself, really.

Megan Jones:

The military kept him busy.

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Kept his mind busy.

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It kept him distracted.

Megan Jones:

It kept him away from home, kept him away

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from his family, kept him away from people

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that he knew outside of the military so

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that he just, he was able to just hide

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it, but not feel like he was hiding it.

Megan Jones:

He felt like he had to hide

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it more when he was around

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people outside of the military.

Megan Jones:

He hid it from the people in the

Megan Jones:

military, but it felt like it was

Megan Jones:

more work for him to do it around

Megan Jones:

like people that he knew outside of

Megan Jones:

the military, if that makes sense.

Megan Jones:

So that was also really hard for him,

Megan Jones:

is having, to hide that and pretend

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to be someone he wasn't, and he

Megan Jones:

began to really just hate himself.

Katische Haberfield:

Okay.

Megan Jones:

He's making me feel like

Megan Jones:

he just he had a lot of anger that

Megan Jones:

he took out on other people, but it,

Megan Jones:

really came down to him hating himself.

Katische Haberfield:

Okay.

Katische Haberfield:

On his grave, it just

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uses the words Father.

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He's buried with his wife.

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And I can't find any records of children.

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So was he distanced from his children?

Katische Haberfield:

There are children, but then they

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don't it's not, it doesn't say beloved

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father of, and then four children.

Katische Haberfield:

And in comparison to other memorial

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stones that I've seen, there's

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no affection that the children

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have written for either parent.

Katische Haberfield:

It's just.

Megan Jones:

He's making me feel

Megan Jones:

like that was more of a money thing.

Katische Haberfield:

Ah, okay.

Katische Haberfield:

Yeah.

Katische Haberfield:

Cause more words, more.

Katische Haberfield:

Yeah.

Megan Jones:

Yeah.

Megan Jones:

That's just how I'm feeling.

Megan Jones:

But let me go back and ask him about

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his relationship with his children.

Megan Jones:

He's making me feel like there

Megan Jones:

was definitely, like he was,

Megan Jones:

he was a support, he

Megan Jones:

was supportive and he.

Megan Jones:

He was there, he wasn't absent, but

Megan Jones:

he wasn't there at the same time.

Megan Jones:

Like he wasn't there emotionally.

Megan Jones:

There wasn't a lot of affection

Megan Jones:

and a lot of compassion that

Megan Jones:

he would give his children.

Megan Jones:

Instead, he brought more of a, of

Megan Jones:

that military, strict, disciplined

Megan Jones:

that kind of environment to the home.

Megan Jones:

I am feeling like there was

Megan Jones:

a substance abuse issue.

Megan Jones:

I feel like he was drinking.

Megan Jones:

I feel like the mom, while she cared

Megan Jones:

for the children and she did hold

Megan Jones:

more compassion and love for the

Megan Jones:

children, she was also in his words,

Megan Jones:

very weak and would not stand up

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to his authoritative personality.

Megan Jones:

When he put his foot down

Megan Jones:

that's, how things were.

Megan Jones:

And that the kids would they would witness

Megan Jones:

that, that struggle between her wanting

Megan Jones:

to do things differently, her wanting him

Megan Jones:

to be more compassionate and understanding

Megan Jones:

with the children, whereas he was.

Megan Jones:

He, wasn't, and she would just

Megan Jones:

bend and just let him have his way.

Megan Jones:

I'm not sure how many children there

Megan Jones:

were, but I'm feeling like three or four.

Megan Jones:

I'm definitely feeling two boys

Megan Jones:

that he felt the closest to.

Megan Jones:

I'm feeling like the girl would've

Megan Jones:

gotten the, least amount of

Megan Jones:

attention from him because he

Megan Jones:

felt more connected to the boys.

Megan Jones:

Like he could shape them into

Megan Jones:

being that military man, and they

Megan Jones:

could take follow in his footsteps.

Katische Haberfield:

Does he have any

Katische Haberfield:

comments about that he hasn't already

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told us about his death and then the

Katische Haberfield:

period where he was an Earthbound spirit?

Katische Haberfield:

Before we move on, he just wants

Katische Haberfield:

to say that that was also one of

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his biggest regrets is the way

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that he treated his children.

Katische Haberfield:

Yeah.

Katische Haberfield:

Because when we were crossing him over,

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we also got, There was a great regret

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around the relationship with his wife.

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He was very sad about that.

Katische Haberfield:

At the time, we felt the

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grief about that relationship.

Katische Haberfield:

Yeah.

Katische Haberfield:

He's It's like he knows that he just

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took all of his own stuff out on them

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and he knows that he treated them poorly.

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And he did love them.

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Even his wife, even though

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he said that he is, gay.

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But like he still loved her.

Katische Haberfield:

She was his best friend.

Katische Haberfield:

And he can tell that he, it doesn't feel

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like there was like extreme abuse, but

Katische Haberfield:

there was, it was definitely on that

Katische Haberfield:

line where he, would cross the line and

Katische Haberfield:

he would get very angry and he would

Katische Haberfield:

yell and definitely take things too far.

Katische Haberfield:

And he does feel a lot of regret

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and a lot of remorse for that.

Katische Haberfield:

That's something that he does feel like

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he has released and, forgiven himself for.

Katische Haberfield:

Because now he knows that it was just

Katische Haberfield:

the anger that he was harboring towards

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himself that caused him to react that way.

Katische Haberfield:

And without reducing or

Katische Haberfield:

excusing the behavior.

Katische Haberfield:

Do, does he feel that was a sole

Katische Haberfield:

personality based issue or just

Katische Haberfield:

something that a lot of the men

Katische Haberfield:

who went to war came back with?

Katische Haberfield:

He's saying it's, both.

Katische Haberfield:

He's saying it's definitely soul driven

Katische Haberfield:

for him and learning to accept himself

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for who he is and love himself for that.

Katische Haberfield:

And not be afraid to be himself.

Katische Haberfield:

But the military did not help

Katische Haberfield:

that, that Would take people that

Katische Haberfield:

already struggle with that and

Katische Haberfield:

would, tend to make it worse?

Katische Haberfield:

Okay.

Katische Haberfield:

Because you're taught to follow,

Katische Haberfield:

you're taught to obey, you're

Katische Haberfield:

taught to be a certain way.

Katische Haberfield:

You're taught to do what you're

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told to do, not ask questions and

Katische Haberfield:

not be different, because when

Katische Haberfield:

you're different, you get killed.

Katische Haberfield:

Yeah, that's key one.

Katische Haberfield:

Okay.

Katische Haberfield:

So what he's, ready to move on.

Katische Haberfield:

So what was the next question?

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The question is I just wanna touch

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on the experience a little more

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about death and then remaining as

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an earthbound spirit followed by

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crossing over the, usual end of.

Katische Haberfield:

Death crossing over and life lessons,

Katische Haberfield:

that sort of stuff, but specifically

Katische Haberfield:

wanting to understand the, death

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and the cemetery experience and the

Katische Haberfield:

crossing over experience for him.

Katische Haberfield:

So I just keep getting

Katische Haberfield:

pressure in my heart space.

Katische Haberfield:

That's very attached.

Katische Haberfield:

That's where he attached to me, but yeah.

Katische Haberfield:

Did he also have heart issue?

Katische Haberfield:

I'm feeling like it was actually cancer.

Katische Haberfield:

Oh, okay.

Katische Haberfield:

And I don't really normally come

Katische Haberfield:

out so bold with, saying that,

Katische Haberfield:

but, . It just feels right.

Katische Haberfield:

The way that he's making me feel is that

Katische Haberfield:

he basically killed himself and

Katische Haberfield:

his stubbornness and his anger

Katische Haberfield:

and his unwillingness to, to

Katische Haberfield:

change and, to accept himself.

Katische Haberfield:

And when he was making me feel this way,

Katische Haberfield:

I just felt like I just had the thought

Katische Haberfield:

of cancer manifesting because of that.

Katische Haberfield:

Okay.

Katische Haberfield:

But he did give me a feeling in my

Katische Haberfield:

heart space, so I wouldn't rule, I

Katische Haberfield:

wouldn't rule out a heart attack.

Katische Haberfield:

It doesn't,

Katische Haberfield:

it doesn't feel like a heart attack.

Katische Haberfield:

It just feels heavy.

Katische Haberfield:

Cancer is what feels right to me.

Katische Haberfield:

Or just some kind of, disease

Katische Haberfield:

is what it feels like.

Katische Haberfield:

It just feels like disease.

Katische Haberfield:

Yep.

Katische Haberfield:

He is making me feel he's make, he's

Katische Haberfield:

just making me feel like he didn't wanna

Katische Haberfield:

cross over, that he dodged he dodged.

Katische Haberfield:

He's ma he's making me feel like since

Katische Haberfield:

he was like alone with himself, he didn't

Katische Haberfield:

have to like, pretend around other people

Katische Haberfield:

to be someone he wasn't, even though

Katische Haberfield:

he was still pretending with himself.

Katische Haberfield:

So being Earthbound was, it was kind, it

Katische Haberfield:

feels like it was like a, relief to him

Katische Haberfield:

a little bit because he was alone He's

Katische Haberfield:

Oh, I don't have to deal with anybody.

Katische Haberfield:

But at the same time, there was a lot of,

Katische Haberfield:

time for him to just, Really sit there and

Katische Haberfield:

reflect over and over again with what he

Katische Haberfield:

did wrong, and that created that remorse

Katische Haberfield:

and that guilt and that shame that he

Katische Haberfield:

felt about the way he treated his family.

Katische Haberfield:

Definitely.

Katische Haberfield:

Sorry.

Katische Haberfield:

But he feels like that, Like he feels like

Katische Haberfield:

that, that he needed, that he's making

Katische Haberfield:

me feel like he needed to be earthbound.

Katische Haberfield:

That was, he needed that time

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alone to get to that softening

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to that acceptance of the things

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that he had done so that he could

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eventually move past that and forgive

Katische Haberfield:

himself, is how he's making me feel.

Katische Haberfield:

What were you saying about Harry?

Katische Haberfield:

Harry got the distinct.

Katische Haberfield:

Feeling that he wanted to be left

Katische Haberfield:

alone was Harry's comment was

Katische Haberfield:

that he didn't interact with him.

Katische Haberfield:

Yeah, yeah,

Katische Haberfield:

He's saying on like a soul

Katische Haberfield:

level that's what he needed.

Katische Haberfield:

Like his soul needed to be alone

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so that he could really be alone

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with himself and face who he was

Katische Haberfield:

and, just learn to, accept himself.

Katische Haberfield:

And he doesn't feel

Katische Haberfield:

like he ever really did.

Katische Haberfield:

And while Earthbound until he

Katische Haberfield:

was able to be crossed over.

Katische Haberfield:

But it does feel like that time did

Katische Haberfield:

give him the opportunity to at least

Katische Haberfield:

see the, what his actions were causing.

Katische Haberfield:

Of, not accepting himself and,

Katische Haberfield:

the things that played out because

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of that unwillingness to, to be

Katische Haberfield:

himself and to, express himself.

Katische Haberfield:

He saw the actions that he caused.

Katische Haberfield:

There's also a lot of shame and guilt

Katische Haberfield:

about not being able to love his wife

Katische Haberfield:

the way that she needed him to love her.

Katische Haberfield:

While he did love her, it was, he knew

Katische Haberfield:

that it wasn't the way that she loved him.

Katische Haberfield:

And so there was a lot of, shame

Katische Haberfield:

and guilt around that for sure.

Katische Haberfield:

He is making me feel like

Katische Haberfield:

when he attached to you

Katische Haberfield:

that you were able to soften that

Katische Haberfield:

anger and that remorse and that

Katische Haberfield:

guilt and that shame that he felt.

Katische Haberfield:

Interesting.

Katische Haberfield:

Yeah.

Katische Haberfield:

I was wondering what it feels like for

Katische Haberfield:

somebody who's in Earthbound spirit form.

Katische Haberfield:

Like, how do they attach I don't know, is

Katische Haberfield:

he able to explain the mechanics of it?

Katische Haberfield:

Like one moment you're floating around

Katische Haberfield:

near your grove and the next minute bang,

Katische Haberfield:

you're physically part of somebody's self.

Katische Haberfield:

Do they attach, What do they attach to and

Katische Haberfield:

how do they make that conscious decision?

Katische Haberfield:

I don't know.

Katische Haberfield:

He may not know either.

Katische Haberfield:

It may just be that boom happened.

Katische Haberfield:

He says that.

Katische Haberfield:

He's saying that there's there's

Katische Haberfield:

a link that has to be acknowledged

Katische Haberfield:

by the Earthbound spirit, whether

Katische Haberfield:

that is an emotional tie or

Katische Haberfield:

a family tie or similarity.

Katische Haberfield:

There's something that the person

Katische Haberfield:

has that the Earthbound spirit is

Katische Haberfield:

drawn to and it basically he's making

Katische Haberfield:

it feel like, it makes them feel.

Katische Haberfield:

More grounded, more safe,

Katische Haberfield:

more just more Okay.

Katische Haberfield:

Than what they felt on the outside.

Katische Haberfield:

He's making me feel like there was

Katische Haberfield:

something specifically like with

Katische Haberfield:

you that reminded him of his wife

Katische Haberfield:

and so he just went for it.

Katische Haberfield:

making me like he's making me feel

Katische Haberfield:

like at time he didn't really know

Katische Haberfield:

what he was doing either, but he was

Katische Haberfield:

just like, just made that decision.

Katische Haberfield:

To go for.

Katische Haberfield:

First time I've asked the question,

Katische Haberfield:

so I just take whatever answer comes.

Katische Haberfield:

Yeah.

Katische Haberfield:

He's just saying like they, once they,

Katische Haberfield:

find someone that they just feel, they

Katische Haberfield:

feel some kind of connection to, they

Katische Haberfield:

can make the decision then to attach.

Katische Haberfield:

They're, they want there to be some

Katische Haberfield:

kind of connection, similarity something

Katische Haberfield:

that, that makes them feel either more

Katische Haberfield:

safe, more alive, more connected to

Katische Haberfield:

who they were, which explains why they

Katische Haberfield:

don't just attach to anybody yet, why

Katische Haberfield:

it's not a common, human experience.

Katische Haberfield:

Yeah.

Katische Haberfield:

Because he's making me feel like if

Katische Haberfield:

there isn't something like that, They're

Katische Haberfield:

just they're, gonna just continue

Katische Haberfield:

to feel bad They're gonna continue

Katische Haberfield:

to feel the same way, and more than

Katische Haberfield:

likely worse, because that person

Katische Haberfield:

has nothing for them that makes them

Katische Haberfield:

feel safe, grounded, like they were.

Katische Haberfield:

He is making me feel like he

Katische Haberfield:

attached to someone before.

Katische Haberfield:

Oh, and I'm just unattached.

Katische Haberfield:

He's making me feel like he

Katische Haberfield:

attached to a soldier before.

Katische Haberfield:

Ah.

Katische Haberfield:

It feels like the soldier

Katische Haberfield:

died and that's when he left.

Katische Haberfield:

Oh, okay.

Katische Haberfield:

So he was unable to cross over at the

Katische Haberfield:

time that the soldier crossed over or he

Katische Haberfield:

didn't, still didn't want to cross over?

Katische Haberfield:

He didn't want to.

Katische Haberfield:

Oh, interesting.

Katische Haberfield:

Yeah,

Katische Haberfield:

he's making me feel like on it,

Katische Haberfield:

he's making me feel like the soldier

Katische Haberfield:

actually made him feel even worse

Katische Haberfield:

because he was able to balance

Katische Haberfield:

his life more than what he did.

Katische Haberfield:

and so he feel he just made

Katische Haberfield:

him feel even more guilty.

Katische Haberfield:

He is making me feel like he wasn't

Katische Haberfield:

with the soldier for, very long.

Katische Haberfield:

I'm not sure what that means in

Katische Haberfield:

terms of Yeah But he, it doesn't

Katische Haberfield:

feel to me like it was long.

Katische Haberfield:

He's bringing up Harry, so I do feel like

Katische Haberfield:

he like he knew that Harry was there.

Katische Haberfield:

It feels like he knew there was

Katische Haberfield:

several, other spirits there.

Katische Haberfield:

But he, again he, didn't want

Katische Haberfield:

to be anywhere around them.

Katische Haberfield:

He, Yep.

Katische Haberfield:

Kept, kept to himself.

Katische Haberfield:

He just, I don't know, I don't

Katische Haberfield:

know what this means, but he

Katische Haberfield:

showed me, It looks like a scroll.

Katische Haberfield:

I don't know.

Katische Haberfield:

Just maybe something for later.

Megan Jones:

Was there a Dark Force

Megan Jones:

entity anywhere around, because

Megan Jones:

he just brought that up too.

Katische Haberfield:

I haven't listened to

Katische Haberfield:

that video for a while, so I'll have to go

Katische Haberfield:

back and check out At the graveyard or in,

Megan Jones:

It feels specifically around

Megan Jones:

the time that you would've found him.

Megan Jones:

Okay.

Megan Jones:

So probably I would

Megan Jones:

think at the graveyard.

Megan Jones:

Okay.

Megan Jones:

They could have been.

Megan Jones:

I was so busy looking for him that

Megan Jones:

I didn't pay any attention, but

Megan Jones:

that's an interesting thing to

Megan Jones:

note, to go back and deal with.

Megan Jones:

He's making me feel like he actually

Megan Jones:

liked to go by Dennis, so that Yeah.

Megan Jones:

Keeps given the d Yeah

Megan Jones:

he, didn't go by James.

Megan Jones:

It's just because his name is

Megan Jones:

officially James, that I keep calling

Megan Jones:

him James, even though he prefers.

Megan Jones:

Yeah.

Megan Jones:

A personal question.

Megan Jones:

What does he think?

Megan Jones:

How did he experience

Megan Jones:

being a Christ Eve baby?

Megan Jones:

He says it was a pain in the ass.

Megan Jones:

He said that Everybody always forgets

Megan Jones:

your birthday . It's my birthday too.

Megan Jones:

That's why I was like, the first thing

Megan Jones:

I noticed on his records was that

Megan Jones:

he's had the same birthday as me.

Megan Jones:

Not too many people in the world

Megan Jones:

that are born on the 24th or 12th.

Megan Jones:

Yeah, he's like laughing about it like,

Megan Jones:

He's Yeah you, know the feeling like you

Megan Jones:

should know that most people forget your

Megan Jones:

birthday and if they don't, then they

Megan Jones:

still can't afford to get you anything

Megan Jones:

because it's too close to Christmas.

Megan Jones:

Yeah.

Megan Jones:

It's a very specific choice of birthdays.

Megan Jones:

We choose our birthday.

Megan Jones:

So it's it's very specific to

Megan Jones:

choose to be that date, I think.

Megan Jones:

Yeah.

Megan Jones:

He, is saying he's trying to tie that

Megan Jones:

into like also the self-worth card because

Megan Jones:

you get forgotten, you get overlooked.

Megan Jones:

And that, that can play

Megan Jones:

into the feeding of that.

Megan Jones:

Is is how I feel about it.

Megan Jones:

So it's like from the moment that

Megan Jones:

you're born, you already start being

Megan Jones:

overlooked and and pushed to the side for

Megan Jones:

one of the most important days to you.

Megan Jones:

So he's making me feel like in life

Megan Jones:

he he really did hate his birthday.

Megan Jones:

Yeah.

Megan Jones:

And is there anything else that

Megan Jones:

he'd like to tell us today,

Megan Jones:

or has he told us everything?

Megan Jones:

We've, he, his time is the earth being

Megan Jones:

an Earthbound spirit really is very

Megan Jones:

much equivalent to his life review.

Megan Jones:

So we've heard a lot about his lessons

Megan Jones:

because he seems to have learnt

Megan Jones:

them while he was in that state.

Megan Jones:

Is there anything that he wishes

Megan Jones:

to comment about what's next

Megan Jones:

for him or Anything else of

Megan Jones:

any, description whatsoever?

Megan Jones:

How would you like to finish up today?

Megan Jones:

Before I asked him that, he just

Megan Jones:

showed me a big, like bird Okay.

Megan Jones:

You might have, I feel like that might be

Megan Jones:

a connection to when you crossed him over.

Megan Jones:

So you might have seen

Megan Jones:

something like that.

Megan Jones:

You might have to go back and look,

Megan Jones:

but it just feels like it's in

Megan Jones:

relevance to you, like a sign or

Megan Jones:

something that you can take with you.

Megan Jones:

Yeah.

Megan Jones:

An eagle.

Megan Jones:

He's making me feel like he is

Megan Jones:

soul is still working on the same.

Megan Jones:

That while he was able to come to

Megan Jones:

that realization in his passing

Megan Jones:

he needs to be able to work

Megan Jones:

through that in an incarnation.

Megan Jones:

He needs to be able to learn

Megan Jones:

to love and accept himself no

Megan Jones:

matter when his birthday is.

Megan Jones:

his words no matter who he loves, no

Megan Jones:

matter what kind of family he's born into.

Megan Jones:

Matter what he faces.

Megan Jones:

He needs to learn to be himself.

Megan Jones:

And that he's, learned a lot that he's

Megan Jones:

not quite done learning that how he's.

Megan Jones:

It does feel like he's already incarnated

Megan Jones:

in other lives to work through this,

Megan Jones:

and it does feel like he's still got a

Megan Jones:

long way to go as far as learning this.

Megan Jones:

Yep.

Megan Jones:

It's a long journey.

Megan Jones:

The journey of anger and self hatred.

Megan Jones:

Yes, it is All.

Megan Jones:

Thank you very much, Dennis.

Megan Jones:

See you remember to go.

Megan Jones:

You Dennis, not James.

Megan Jones:

He's just like winking.

Megan Jones:

All right, thanks.

Megan Jones:

Have a good day.

Megan Jones:

Take care.

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Katische Haberfield

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