In this episode, Katische follows Harry’s advice and returns to the Balmoral/Balmain Cemetery to find the ghost that Harry knows is still there. The only thing Katische knows is he has the letter “D” in his name.
With thanks to Dawn Catena for her assistance with this episode.
Transcript
This week, we,
Katische Haberfield:uh, listening to another session
Katische Haberfield:with Megan Jones, maybe Megan Jones,
Katische Haberfield:as we attempt to connect with.
Katische Haberfield:Dennis in the afterlife.
Katische Haberfield:If you were listening last week,
Katische Haberfield:you'd listened to the session
Katische Haberfield:where we crossed over Dennis, as he
Katische Haberfield:followed me home from the cemetery.
Katische Haberfield:He refused to cross over at the time
Katische Haberfield:that I found him in the cemetery.
Katische Haberfield:And attached to my heart.
Katische Haberfield:I happen to have a session with Dawn.
Katische Haberfield:And because she's such a skilled
Katische Haberfield:communicator and medium herself.
Katische Haberfield:I asked her to kindly cross him over.
Katische Haberfield:Because it was a little
Katische Haberfield:shaken from the experience.
Katische Haberfield:So if you haven't listened to
Katische Haberfield:that episode, It's just a short
Katische Haberfield:one, go back and listen to that.
Katische Haberfield:And then you can come and listen to
Katische Haberfield:the afterlife discussions with Dennis.
Katische Haberfield:megan spirit releasement during mediumship 1:
Katische Haberfield:I'm, I, right now I'm feeling
Katische Haberfield:a male coming through.
Katische Haberfield:Good.
Katische Haberfield:He feels strict stern and.
Katische Haberfield:Yeah, he definitely, he feels
Katische Haberfield:like just really like, I said,
Katische Haberfield:like really strict, really just
Katische Haberfield:things have to be done this way.
Katische Haberfield:Very orderly.
Katische Haberfield:Definitely not one you'd
Katische Haberfield:push around . Okay.
Katische Haberfield:Kinda my way or the highway.
Katische Haberfield:Okay.
Katische Haberfield:And is he
Katische Haberfield:somebody that I have crossed over?
Katische Haberfield:megan spirit releasement during mediumship 1:
Katische Haberfield:Yes.
Katische Haberfield:Yes.
Katische Haberfield:Okay.
Katische Haberfield:So
Katische Haberfield:I've seen this name somewhere on
Katische Haberfield:your list, so I don't know if this
Katische Haberfield:is, they're just throwing that
Katische Haberfield:name to make a connection to that
Katische Haberfield:person, or if this is who they are.
Katische Haberfield:But I'm seeing the name or Dalton, and
Katische Haberfield:I know that's like a middle name or
Katische Haberfield:something on that list, but, I'm not sure.
Katische Haberfield:I just wanna, I wanna mention
Katische Haberfield:it in case it's relevant.
Katische Haberfield:Hang on.
Katische Haberfield:And it also could just be the
Katische Haberfield:D, Sometimes they throw a name
Katische Haberfield:so that I, Can I catch a letter?
Katische Haberfield:Was that their middle name
Katische Haberfield:or is the D from the middle?
Katische Haberfield:That's, Yes, that's the
Katische Haberfield:name that's coming in.
Katische Haberfield:But like I said, I don't know if
Katische Haberfield:this is actually that person or if
Katische Haberfield:they're just connected to that person.
Katische Haberfield:Okay.
Katische Haberfield:Sorry, I
Katische Haberfield:wanna ask is a specific question
Katische Haberfield:which will help me identify, did
Katische Haberfield:this person attach to me at a c.
Katische Haberfield:Yes.
Katische Haberfield:. So I'm guessing we've
Katische Haberfield:got James Dennis White.
Katische Haberfield:Okay.
Katische Haberfield:Who I've just been spending
Katische Haberfield:the morning doing research on.
Katische Haberfield:Probably some ER questions.
Katische Haberfield:Yeah.
Katische Haberfield:It's weird the way that because we
Katische Haberfield:have to validate differently, the
Katische Haberfield:information comes to me and thinks
Katische Haberfield:that they know that I would reference.
Katische Haberfield:And there's not a whole
Katische Haberfield:lot I would reference.
Katische Haberfield:And I've started picking up on that
Katische Haberfield:as we've done more sessions, is
Katische Haberfield:they'll give me things that they know.
Katische Haberfield:I can say that you'll
Katische Haberfield:basically puzzle it together.
Katische Haberfield:So that's why I was like, it could just
Katische Haberfield:be the D that they're trying to get.
Katische Haberfield:Okay.
Katische Haberfield:So this.
Katische Haberfield:If we're gonna go with identification
Katische Haberfield:and he needs to give us some help.
Katische Haberfield:Now this is the boy that Harry,
Katische Haberfield:not the boy, the man that Harry
Katische Haberfield:said that I had to go back to
Katische Haberfield:the cemetery define and all that.
Katische Haberfield:Harry, do you know what I mean?
Katische Haberfield:Now you got the D originally?
Megan Jones:Yeah.
Katische Haberfield:Okay.
Katische Haberfield:So this is James Dennis White and
Katische Haberfield:I went to the cemetery looking for
Katische Haberfield:the letter D and then found James.
Megan Jones:And ah, yeah.
Megan Jones:So he's bringing us back full circle.
Katische Haberfield:Yep.
Megan Jones:Cause he
Megan Jones:gave us d last time too.
Katische Haberfield:Yep.
Katische Haberfield:That's all he gave us to start with.
Katische Haberfield:And then he attached to me and we did that
Katische Haberfield:video with Dawn, where I crossed him over.
Megan Jones:Yeah.
Megan Jones:This is definitely him.
Megan Jones:I'm feeling like all this is like a yes.
Megan Jones:It feels like a yes in my heart space.
Katische Haberfield:Okay.
Katische Haberfield:All right.
Katische Haberfield:Now I have been researching
Katische Haberfield:him this morning, so I want
Katische Haberfield:him to tell me something.
Katische Haberfield:That he knows that I've just seen
Katische Haberfield:this morning in the documentation.
Katische Haberfield:Cause I know they, they can
Katische Haberfield:see what I've been doing.
Katische Haberfield:What have I downloaded or looked
Katische Haberfield:at or found interesting this
Katische Haberfield:morning or something that he can
Katische Haberfield:tell me in the documents that I've
Katische Haberfield:been reading as an identifier?
Katische Haberfield:First he's saying that there's
Katische Haberfield:something with his name.
Katische Haberfield:There's something
Katische Haberfield:particular with his name.
Katische Haberfield:I also feel like he might have
Katische Haberfield:a shared name with someone,
Katische Haberfield:like a family, like
Katische Haberfield:his name was passed on.
Katische Haberfield:But I do feel like he just keeps
Katische Haberfield:bringing attention to his name.
Katische Haberfield:So I don't want to assume what he
Katische Haberfield:means by that, but he definitely
Katische Haberfield:is bringing attention to his name.
Katische Haberfield:There's something that he shares with
Katische Haberfield:me cause he know what he shares with me.
Katische Haberfield:If it's him, something very
Katische Haberfield:specific that we share in common.
Katische Haberfield:Yeah, he's not bringing it up right now.
Katische Haberfield:Let's see if it just comes.
Katische Haberfield:Let's see if it comes through.
Katische Haberfield:At the more that we talk.
Katische Haberfield:Yeah, let's just talk.
Katische Haberfield:It's just something that I noticed and I,
Katische Haberfield:when I noticed it, it's I was like, Ooh,
Katische Haberfield:there's gotta be some connection here
Katische Haberfield:because this is one of those dile moments
Katische Haberfield:when I noticed something on his record.
Katische Haberfield:But yeah, let's see what the story
Katische Haberfield:is and let's see what he has to say.
Katische Haberfield:And then if it's not him, it's not him.
Katische Haberfield:But as soon as you said that strict
Katische Haberfield:personality it's I felt the, because
Katische Haberfield:of the military vibes, right?
Katische Haberfield:Yeah.
Katische Haberfield:There's definitely mil military bobs
Katische Haberfield:just like that that very disciplined
Katische Haberfield:kind of personality that he's showing me.
Megan Jones:It also feels there's
Megan Jones:def, there's also like a mean streak.
Megan Jones:And that he has, or that
Megan Jones:he had, and I don't know.
Megan Jones:It feels like that definitely
Megan Jones:grew the older he got especially
Megan Jones:in the afterlife for sure.
Megan Jones:Like before he was crossed, but
Megan Jones:it just, Yeah, he feels very,
Megan Jones:I don't know, not approachable,
Megan Jones:if that makes sense.
Katische Haberfield:Okay.
Katische Haberfield:Not approachable.
Katische Haberfield:Okay.
Katische Haberfield:So if he's not approachable, then
Megan Jones:but he is
Megan Jones:wanting to talk to us.
Katische Haberfield:He's
Katische Haberfield:wanting to talk to us.
Megan Jones:Yeah.
Megan Jones:Okay.
Megan Jones:Yeah.
Megan Jones:A lot of times they will show us
Megan Jones:that because that's just who they
Megan Jones:were and they want us to know that.
Megan Jones:Okay.
Katische Haberfield:One of the things
Katische Haberfield:that I would like to know is that I
Katische Haberfield:noticed that he is born at the same era
Katische Haberfield:and the same time, and fighting in the
Katische Haberfield:same war as the other military gentlemen
Katische Haberfield:that we have been speaking with, but
Katische Haberfield:on he would be on the other side.
Katische Haberfield:So they were on not the other side.
Katische Haberfield:No, they were, they, These were the
Katische Haberfield:other ones were all British soldiers
Katische Haberfield:fighting in the uk and he was British,
Katische Haberfield:born in Australia, British, and then
Katische Haberfield:fought on behalf of the Australians.
Katische Haberfield:And so I'm just trying to see,
Katische Haberfield:there's, I feel like there's some
Katische Haberfield:connection between him and the
Katische Haberfield:other guys, whether he knew it or.
Megan Jones:It does feel like
Megan Jones:there's a connection, like he is
Megan Jones:making me feel like you're right.
Megan Jones:That there is a connection.
Katische Haberfield:Especially
Katische Haberfield:it feels especially with George.
Katische Haberfield:Okay.
Katische Haberfield:Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
Katische Haberfield:George particularly yeah, I haven't
Katische Haberfield:sat down and analyzed the battalions
Katische Haberfield:that they were all with and maybe
Katische Haberfield:they're in the same battalion.
Katische Haberfield:It's the stuff that I'll do later on.
Katische Haberfield:But yeah, I just wanted to, see if
Katische Haberfield:a name came up and is he wanting
Katische Haberfield:to talk to us about his time
Katische Haberfield:in the military or his time as.
Katische Haberfield:He spent a long time just
Katische Haberfield:as a normal civilian married
Katische Haberfield:and all that sort of stuff.
Katische Haberfield:What's the most impactful
Katische Haberfield:thing that happened in his life
Katische Haberfield:in terms of his experience?
Katische Haberfield:Is it the military stuff or is it
Katische Haberfield:the, being in a normal person trying
Katische Haberfield:to live back in normal society when
Katische Haberfield:you're not in the military anymore?
Megan Jones:A little bit of both.
Megan Jones:He's saying he was definitely his
Megan Jones:words cut from the military cloth.
Megan Jones:But when it feels like he had to, it feels
Megan Jones:like there was some kind of discharge.
Megan Jones:I'm not, it doesn't whatever the,
Megan Jones:reason it I it, feels like it was
Megan Jones:out of his control that he didn't he
Megan Jones:didn't want to leave the military,
Megan Jones:but he had to, is how it feels to me.
Katische Haberfield:And so it was
Katische Haberfield:very hard for him to try to live in
Katische Haberfield:a normal life especially because he
Katische Haberfield:feels like being part of the military.
Katische Haberfield:He felt like that was part of who he was.
Katische Haberfield:It fit his personality.
Katische Haberfield:It, he liked the structure,
Katische Haberfield:he liked the discipline.
Katische Haberfield:He liked the, brotherhood.
Katische Haberfield:So I feel like when he was, when he had
Katische Haberfield:to leave the military, that was a big,
Katische Haberfield:turning point that caused him to harbor
Katische Haberfield:a lot of anger and a lot of resentment.
Katische Haberfield:What ? I feel like he was gay.
Katische Haberfield:Oh, okay.
Katische Haberfield:Even though he married a socialite?
Megan Jones:For sure.
Megan Jones:I feel like that was never he,
Megan Jones:never admitted that out loud
Megan Jones:and not even to himself, really.
Megan Jones:The military kept him busy.
Megan Jones:Kept his mind busy.
Megan Jones:It kept him distracted.
Megan Jones:It kept him away from home, kept him away
Megan Jones:from his family, kept him away from people
Megan Jones:that he knew outside of the military so
Megan Jones:that he just, he was able to just hide
Megan Jones:it, but not feel like he was hiding it.
Megan Jones:He felt like he had to hide
Megan Jones:it more when he was around
Megan Jones:people outside of the military.
Megan Jones:He hid it from the people in the
Megan Jones:military, but it felt like it was
Megan Jones:more work for him to do it around
Megan Jones:like people that he knew outside of
Megan Jones:the military, if that makes sense.
Megan Jones:So that was also really hard for him,
Megan Jones:is having, to hide that and pretend
Megan Jones:to be someone he wasn't, and he
Megan Jones:began to really just hate himself.
Katische Haberfield:Okay.
Megan Jones:He's making me feel like
Megan Jones:he just he had a lot of anger that
Megan Jones:he took out on other people, but it,
Megan Jones:really came down to him hating himself.
Katische Haberfield:Okay.
Katische Haberfield:On his grave, it just
Katische Haberfield:uses the words Father.
Katische Haberfield:He's buried with his wife.
Katische Haberfield:And I can't find any records of children.
Katische Haberfield:So was he distanced from his children?
Katische Haberfield:There are children, but then they
Katische Haberfield:don't it's not, it doesn't say beloved
Katische Haberfield:father of, and then four children.
Katische Haberfield:And in comparison to other memorial
Katische Haberfield:stones that I've seen, there's
Katische Haberfield:no affection that the children
Katische Haberfield:have written for either parent.
Katische Haberfield:It's just.
Megan Jones:He's making me feel
Megan Jones:like that was more of a money thing.
Katische Haberfield:Ah, okay.
Katische Haberfield:Yeah.
Katische Haberfield:Cause more words, more.
Katische Haberfield:Yeah.
Megan Jones:Yeah.
Megan Jones:That's just how I'm feeling.
Megan Jones:But let me go back and ask him about
Megan Jones:his relationship with his children.
Megan Jones:He's making me feel like there
Megan Jones:was definitely, like he was,
Megan Jones:he was a support, he
Megan Jones:was supportive and he.
Megan Jones:He was there, he wasn't absent, but
Megan Jones:he wasn't there at the same time.
Megan Jones:Like he wasn't there emotionally.
Megan Jones:There wasn't a lot of affection
Megan Jones:and a lot of compassion that
Megan Jones:he would give his children.
Megan Jones:Instead, he brought more of a, of
Megan Jones:that military, strict, disciplined
Megan Jones:that kind of environment to the home.
Megan Jones:I am feeling like there was
Megan Jones:a substance abuse issue.
Megan Jones:I feel like he was drinking.
Megan Jones:I feel like the mom, while she cared
Megan Jones:for the children and she did hold
Megan Jones:more compassion and love for the
Megan Jones:children, she was also in his words,
Megan Jones:very weak and would not stand up
Megan Jones:to his authoritative personality.
Megan Jones:When he put his foot down
Megan Jones:that's, how things were.
Megan Jones:And that the kids would they would witness
Megan Jones:that, that struggle between her wanting
Megan Jones:to do things differently, her wanting him
Megan Jones:to be more compassionate and understanding
Megan Jones:with the children, whereas he was.
Megan Jones:He, wasn't, and she would just
Megan Jones:bend and just let him have his way.
Megan Jones:I'm not sure how many children there
Megan Jones:were, but I'm feeling like three or four.
Megan Jones:I'm definitely feeling two boys
Megan Jones:that he felt the closest to.
Megan Jones:I'm feeling like the girl would've
Megan Jones:gotten the, least amount of
Megan Jones:attention from him because he
Megan Jones:felt more connected to the boys.
Megan Jones:Like he could shape them into
Megan Jones:being that military man, and they
Megan Jones:could take follow in his footsteps.
Katische Haberfield:Does he have any
Katische Haberfield:comments about that he hasn't already
Katische Haberfield:told us about his death and then the
Katische Haberfield:period where he was an Earthbound spirit?
Katische Haberfield:Before we move on, he just wants
Katische Haberfield:to say that that was also one of
Katische Haberfield:his biggest regrets is the way
Katische Haberfield:that he treated his children.
Katische Haberfield:Yeah.
Katische Haberfield:Because when we were crossing him over,
Katische Haberfield:we also got, There was a great regret
Katische Haberfield:around the relationship with his wife.
Katische Haberfield:He was very sad about that.
Katische Haberfield:At the time, we felt the
Katische Haberfield:grief about that relationship.
Katische Haberfield:Yeah.
Katische Haberfield:He's It's like he knows that he just
Katische Haberfield:took all of his own stuff out on them
Katische Haberfield:and he knows that he treated them poorly.
Katische Haberfield:And he did love them.
Katische Haberfield:Even his wife, even though
Katische Haberfield:he said that he is, gay.
Katische Haberfield:But like he still loved her.
Katische Haberfield:She was his best friend.
Katische Haberfield:And he can tell that he, it doesn't feel
Katische Haberfield:like there was like extreme abuse, but
Katische Haberfield:there was, it was definitely on that
Katische Haberfield:line where he, would cross the line and
Katische Haberfield:he would get very angry and he would
Katische Haberfield:yell and definitely take things too far.
Katische Haberfield:And he does feel a lot of regret
Katische Haberfield:and a lot of remorse for that.
Katische Haberfield:That's something that he does feel like
Katische Haberfield:he has released and, forgiven himself for.
Katische Haberfield:Because now he knows that it was just
Katische Haberfield:the anger that he was harboring towards
Katische Haberfield:himself that caused him to react that way.
Katische Haberfield:And without reducing or
Katische Haberfield:excusing the behavior.
Katische Haberfield:Do, does he feel that was a sole
Katische Haberfield:personality based issue or just
Katische Haberfield:something that a lot of the men
Katische Haberfield:who went to war came back with?
Katische Haberfield:He's saying it's, both.
Katische Haberfield:He's saying it's definitely soul driven
Katische Haberfield:for him and learning to accept himself
Katische Haberfield:for who he is and love himself for that.
Katische Haberfield:And not be afraid to be himself.
Katische Haberfield:But the military did not help
Katische Haberfield:that, that Would take people that
Katische Haberfield:already struggle with that and
Katische Haberfield:would, tend to make it worse?
Katische Haberfield:Okay.
Katische Haberfield:Because you're taught to follow,
Katische Haberfield:you're taught to obey, you're
Katische Haberfield:taught to be a certain way.
Katische Haberfield:You're taught to do what you're
Katische Haberfield:told to do, not ask questions and
Katische Haberfield:not be different, because when
Katische Haberfield:you're different, you get killed.
Katische Haberfield:Yeah, that's key one.
Katische Haberfield:Okay.
Katische Haberfield:So what he's, ready to move on.
Katische Haberfield:So what was the next question?
Katische Haberfield:The question is I just wanna touch
Katische Haberfield:on the experience a little more
Katische Haberfield:about death and then remaining as
Katische Haberfield:an earthbound spirit followed by
Katische Haberfield:crossing over the, usual end of.
Katische Haberfield:Death crossing over and life lessons,
Katische Haberfield:that sort of stuff, but specifically
Katische Haberfield:wanting to understand the, death
Katische Haberfield:and the cemetery experience and the
Katische Haberfield:crossing over experience for him.
Katische Haberfield:So I just keep getting
Katische Haberfield:pressure in my heart space.
Katische Haberfield:That's very attached.
Katische Haberfield:That's where he attached to me, but yeah.
Katische Haberfield:Did he also have heart issue?
Katische Haberfield:I'm feeling like it was actually cancer.
Katische Haberfield:Oh, okay.
Katische Haberfield:And I don't really normally come
Katische Haberfield:out so bold with, saying that,
Katische Haberfield:but, . It just feels right.
Katische Haberfield:The way that he's making me feel is that
Katische Haberfield:he basically killed himself and
Katische Haberfield:his stubbornness and his anger
Katische Haberfield:and his unwillingness to, to
Katische Haberfield:change and, to accept himself.
Katische Haberfield:And when he was making me feel this way,
Katische Haberfield:I just felt like I just had the thought
Katische Haberfield:of cancer manifesting because of that.
Katische Haberfield:Okay.
Katische Haberfield:But he did give me a feeling in my
Katische Haberfield:heart space, so I wouldn't rule, I
Katische Haberfield:wouldn't rule out a heart attack.
Katische Haberfield:It doesn't,
Katische Haberfield:it doesn't feel like a heart attack.
Katische Haberfield:It just feels heavy.
Katische Haberfield:Cancer is what feels right to me.
Katische Haberfield:Or just some kind of, disease
Katische Haberfield:is what it feels like.
Katische Haberfield:It just feels like disease.
Katische Haberfield:Yep.
Katische Haberfield:He is making me feel he's make, he's
Katische Haberfield:just making me feel like he didn't wanna
Katische Haberfield:cross over, that he dodged he dodged.
Katische Haberfield:He's ma he's making me feel like since
Katische Haberfield:he was like alone with himself, he didn't
Katische Haberfield:have to like, pretend around other people
Katische Haberfield:to be someone he wasn't, even though
Katische Haberfield:he was still pretending with himself.
Katische Haberfield:So being Earthbound was, it was kind, it
Katische Haberfield:feels like it was like a, relief to him
Katische Haberfield:a little bit because he was alone He's
Katische Haberfield:Oh, I don't have to deal with anybody.
Katische Haberfield:But at the same time, there was a lot of,
Katische Haberfield:time for him to just, Really sit there and
Katische Haberfield:reflect over and over again with what he
Katische Haberfield:did wrong, and that created that remorse
Katische Haberfield:and that guilt and that shame that he
Katische Haberfield:felt about the way he treated his family.
Katische Haberfield:Definitely.
Katische Haberfield:Sorry.
Katische Haberfield:But he feels like that, Like he feels like
Katische Haberfield:that, that he needed, that he's making
Katische Haberfield:me feel like he needed to be earthbound.
Katische Haberfield:That was, he needed that time
Katische Haberfield:alone to get to that softening
Katische Haberfield:to that acceptance of the things
Katische Haberfield:that he had done so that he could
Katische Haberfield:eventually move past that and forgive
Katische Haberfield:himself, is how he's making me feel.
Katische Haberfield:What were you saying about Harry?
Katische Haberfield:Harry got the distinct.
Katische Haberfield:Feeling that he wanted to be left
Katische Haberfield:alone was Harry's comment was
Katische Haberfield:that he didn't interact with him.
Katische Haberfield:Yeah, yeah,
Katische Haberfield:He's saying on like a soul
Katische Haberfield:level that's what he needed.
Katische Haberfield:Like his soul needed to be alone
Katische Haberfield:so that he could really be alone
Katische Haberfield:with himself and face who he was
Katische Haberfield:and, just learn to, accept himself.
Katische Haberfield:And he doesn't feel
Katische Haberfield:like he ever really did.
Katische Haberfield:And while Earthbound until he
Katische Haberfield:was able to be crossed over.
Katische Haberfield:But it does feel like that time did
Katische Haberfield:give him the opportunity to at least
Katische Haberfield:see the, what his actions were causing.
Katische Haberfield:Of, not accepting himself and,
Katische Haberfield:the things that played out because
Katische Haberfield:of that unwillingness to, to be
Katische Haberfield:himself and to, express himself.
Katische Haberfield:He saw the actions that he caused.
Katische Haberfield:There's also a lot of shame and guilt
Katische Haberfield:about not being able to love his wife
Katische Haberfield:the way that she needed him to love her.
Katische Haberfield:While he did love her, it was, he knew
Katische Haberfield:that it wasn't the way that she loved him.
Katische Haberfield:And so there was a lot of, shame
Katische Haberfield:and guilt around that for sure.
Katische Haberfield:He is making me feel like
Katische Haberfield:when he attached to you
Katische Haberfield:that you were able to soften that
Katische Haberfield:anger and that remorse and that
Katische Haberfield:guilt and that shame that he felt.
Katische Haberfield:Interesting.
Katische Haberfield:Yeah.
Katische Haberfield:I was wondering what it feels like for
Katische Haberfield:somebody who's in Earthbound spirit form.
Katische Haberfield:Like, how do they attach I don't know, is
Katische Haberfield:he able to explain the mechanics of it?
Katische Haberfield:Like one moment you're floating around
Katische Haberfield:near your grove and the next minute bang,
Katische Haberfield:you're physically part of somebody's self.
Katische Haberfield:Do they attach, What do they attach to and
Katische Haberfield:how do they make that conscious decision?
Katische Haberfield:I don't know.
Katische Haberfield:He may not know either.
Katische Haberfield:It may just be that boom happened.
Katische Haberfield:He says that.
Katische Haberfield:He's saying that there's there's
Katische Haberfield:a link that has to be acknowledged
Katische Haberfield:by the Earthbound spirit, whether
Katische Haberfield:that is an emotional tie or
Katische Haberfield:a family tie or similarity.
Katische Haberfield:There's something that the person
Katische Haberfield:has that the Earthbound spirit is
Katische Haberfield:drawn to and it basically he's making
Katische Haberfield:it feel like, it makes them feel.
Katische Haberfield:More grounded, more safe,
Katische Haberfield:more just more Okay.
Katische Haberfield:Than what they felt on the outside.
Katische Haberfield:He's making me feel like there was
Katische Haberfield:something specifically like with
Katische Haberfield:you that reminded him of his wife
Katische Haberfield:and so he just went for it.
Katische Haberfield:making me like he's making me feel
Katische Haberfield:like at time he didn't really know
Katische Haberfield:what he was doing either, but he was
Katische Haberfield:just like, just made that decision.
Katische Haberfield:To go for.
Katische Haberfield:First time I've asked the question,
Katische Haberfield:so I just take whatever answer comes.
Katische Haberfield:Yeah.
Katische Haberfield:He's just saying like they, once they,
Katische Haberfield:find someone that they just feel, they
Katische Haberfield:feel some kind of connection to, they
Katische Haberfield:can make the decision then to attach.
Katische Haberfield:They're, they want there to be some
Katische Haberfield:kind of connection, similarity something
Katische Haberfield:that, that makes them feel either more
Katische Haberfield:safe, more alive, more connected to
Katische Haberfield:who they were, which explains why they
Katische Haberfield:don't just attach to anybody yet, why
Katische Haberfield:it's not a common, human experience.
Katische Haberfield:Yeah.
Katische Haberfield:Because he's making me feel like if
Katische Haberfield:there isn't something like that, They're
Katische Haberfield:just they're, gonna just continue
Katische Haberfield:to feel bad They're gonna continue
Katische Haberfield:to feel the same way, and more than
Katische Haberfield:likely worse, because that person
Katische Haberfield:has nothing for them that makes them
Katische Haberfield:feel safe, grounded, like they were.
Katische Haberfield:He is making me feel like he
Katische Haberfield:attached to someone before.
Katische Haberfield:Oh, and I'm just unattached.
Katische Haberfield:He's making me feel like he
Katische Haberfield:attached to a soldier before.
Katische Haberfield:Ah.
Katische Haberfield:It feels like the soldier
Katische Haberfield:died and that's when he left.
Katische Haberfield:Oh, okay.
Katische Haberfield:So he was unable to cross over at the
Katische Haberfield:time that the soldier crossed over or he
Katische Haberfield:didn't, still didn't want to cross over?
Katische Haberfield:He didn't want to.
Katische Haberfield:Oh, interesting.
Katische Haberfield:Yeah,
Katische Haberfield:he's making me feel like on it,
Katische Haberfield:he's making me feel like the soldier
Katische Haberfield:actually made him feel even worse
Katische Haberfield:because he was able to balance
Katische Haberfield:his life more than what he did.
Katische Haberfield:and so he feel he just made
Katische Haberfield:him feel even more guilty.
Katische Haberfield:He is making me feel like he wasn't
Katische Haberfield:with the soldier for, very long.
Katische Haberfield:I'm not sure what that means in
Katische Haberfield:terms of Yeah But he, it doesn't
Katische Haberfield:feel to me like it was long.
Katische Haberfield:He's bringing up Harry, so I do feel like
Katische Haberfield:he like he knew that Harry was there.
Katische Haberfield:It feels like he knew there was
Katische Haberfield:several, other spirits there.
Katische Haberfield:But he, again he, didn't want
Katische Haberfield:to be anywhere around them.
Katische Haberfield:He, Yep.
Katische Haberfield:Kept, kept to himself.
Katische Haberfield:He just, I don't know, I don't
Katische Haberfield:know what this means, but he
Katische Haberfield:showed me, It looks like a scroll.
Katische Haberfield:I don't know.
Katische Haberfield:Just maybe something for later.
Megan Jones:Was there a Dark Force
Megan Jones:entity anywhere around, because
Megan Jones:he just brought that up too.
Katische Haberfield:I haven't listened to
Katische Haberfield:that video for a while, so I'll have to go
Katische Haberfield:back and check out At the graveyard or in,
Megan Jones:It feels specifically around
Megan Jones:the time that you would've found him.
Megan Jones:Okay.
Megan Jones:So probably I would
Megan Jones:think at the graveyard.
Megan Jones:Okay.
Megan Jones:They could have been.
Megan Jones:I was so busy looking for him that
Megan Jones:I didn't pay any attention, but
Megan Jones:that's an interesting thing to
Megan Jones:note, to go back and deal with.
Megan Jones:He's making me feel like he actually
Megan Jones:liked to go by Dennis, so that Yeah.
Megan Jones:Keeps given the d Yeah
Megan Jones:he, didn't go by James.
Megan Jones:It's just because his name is
Megan Jones:officially James, that I keep calling
Megan Jones:him James, even though he prefers.
Megan Jones:Yeah.
Megan Jones:A personal question.
Megan Jones:What does he think?
Megan Jones:How did he experience
Megan Jones:being a Christ Eve baby?
Megan Jones:He says it was a pain in the ass.
Megan Jones:He said that Everybody always forgets
Megan Jones:your birthday . It's my birthday too.
Megan Jones:That's why I was like, the first thing
Megan Jones:I noticed on his records was that
Megan Jones:he's had the same birthday as me.
Megan Jones:Not too many people in the world
Megan Jones:that are born on the 24th or 12th.
Megan Jones:Yeah, he's like laughing about it like,
Megan Jones:He's Yeah you, know the feeling like you
Megan Jones:should know that most people forget your
Megan Jones:birthday and if they don't, then they
Megan Jones:still can't afford to get you anything
Megan Jones:because it's too close to Christmas.
Megan Jones:Yeah.
Megan Jones:It's a very specific choice of birthdays.
Megan Jones:We choose our birthday.
Megan Jones:So it's it's very specific to
Megan Jones:choose to be that date, I think.
Megan Jones:Yeah.
Megan Jones:He, is saying he's trying to tie that
Megan Jones:into like also the self-worth card because
Megan Jones:you get forgotten, you get overlooked.
Megan Jones:And that, that can play
Megan Jones:into the feeding of that.
Megan Jones:Is is how I feel about it.
Megan Jones:So it's like from the moment that
Megan Jones:you're born, you already start being
Megan Jones:overlooked and and pushed to the side for
Megan Jones:one of the most important days to you.
Megan Jones:So he's making me feel like in life
Megan Jones:he he really did hate his birthday.
Megan Jones:Yeah.
Megan Jones:And is there anything else that
Megan Jones:he'd like to tell us today,
Megan Jones:or has he told us everything?
Megan Jones:We've, he, his time is the earth being
Megan Jones:an Earthbound spirit really is very
Megan Jones:much equivalent to his life review.
Megan Jones:So we've heard a lot about his lessons
Megan Jones:because he seems to have learnt
Megan Jones:them while he was in that state.
Megan Jones:Is there anything that he wishes
Megan Jones:to comment about what's next
Megan Jones:for him or Anything else of
Megan Jones:any, description whatsoever?
Megan Jones:How would you like to finish up today?
Megan Jones:Before I asked him that, he just
Megan Jones:showed me a big, like bird Okay.
Megan Jones:You might have, I feel like that might be
Megan Jones:a connection to when you crossed him over.
Megan Jones:So you might have seen
Megan Jones:something like that.
Megan Jones:You might have to go back and look,
Megan Jones:but it just feels like it's in
Megan Jones:relevance to you, like a sign or
Megan Jones:something that you can take with you.
Megan Jones:Yeah.
Megan Jones:An eagle.
Megan Jones:He's making me feel like he is
Megan Jones:soul is still working on the same.
Megan Jones:That while he was able to come to
Megan Jones:that realization in his passing
Megan Jones:he needs to be able to work
Megan Jones:through that in an incarnation.
Megan Jones:He needs to be able to learn
Megan Jones:to love and accept himself no
Megan Jones:matter when his birthday is.
Megan Jones:his words no matter who he loves, no
Megan Jones:matter what kind of family he's born into.
Megan Jones:Matter what he faces.
Megan Jones:He needs to learn to be himself.
Megan Jones:And that he's, learned a lot that he's
Megan Jones:not quite done learning that how he's.
Megan Jones:It does feel like he's already incarnated
Megan Jones:in other lives to work through this,
Megan Jones:and it does feel like he's still got a
Megan Jones:long way to go as far as learning this.
Megan Jones:Yep.
Megan Jones:It's a long journey.
Megan Jones:The journey of anger and self hatred.
Megan Jones:Yes, it is All.
Megan Jones:Thank you very much, Dennis.
Megan Jones:See you remember to go.
Megan Jones:You Dennis, not James.
Megan Jones:He's just like winking.
Megan Jones:All right, thanks.
Megan Jones:Have a good day.
Megan Jones:Take care.