The Afterlife Interview with George Esmond Haggie

Welcome back to

the Infinite Life Podcast.

This week we are going to get another

session with Megan Jones and we

are going to see who comes through.

This session for me is particularly

interesting because it looks at war,

and the effects of war on human beings.

So no matter what you feel about war, it's

great to be open-minded about what can

happen to human beings who die in war and.

You're a fright as you

would at the time of death.

It also helps us have compassion, I

believe, for soldiers of all kinds and

of all nationalities, irrespective of

which side of the battle they were on.

It helps us understand a little bit of

the trauma of those who have returned.

Alive from war and have to try

and resume their normal life.

I think it explains why some soldiers feel

haunted and guilty that they survived, and

I think it provides us also insight with.

The potential to examine, do

soldiers bring back the ghosts

of others on their shoulders?

It's a question worth pondering.

Anyway, it's an interesting session today.

It's not meant to be somber, but it's, you

may feel a little emotional when you hear

George Hemond Haggy tell us his story.

Thank you for listening.

Namaste.

I've been doing a lot of crossing over

spirits, like a lot massive amounts.

Basically Harry just sends me to locations

now all the time and that's awesome.

And he also brings them

here when it's urgent.

And here from all around the world

and like I had one here from 13

42, 2, or something like that.

I have a number of questions to ask

any spirit guide that wants to come

in to help me with the technicalities.

I have questions about my house and how

I'm trying to understand the logistics

of how the this is what's happening

with the crossing over is happening.

I have a whole list of questions,

but we've got nine sessions but the

priority for me is the spirits that I've

crossed over, over personal message.

I'm pretty sure dad was come in today

because there are a few signs, but my

priority for these sessions is to, get

the messages from the people that I've

crossed over, whether they be in my

house in a cemetery, in a pub or wherever

I've done the crossing over to learn any

guidance that any of the spirits or the

being angels or the spirits wish to tell

me about what they're trying to teach me.

And yeah, so really structured

in terms of the spirits that come

through that I have crossed over.

I'm really wanting to know.

Where I cross them over so that I

can, cuz what I have now is like a

folder that I basically go through

and have all the evidence about each

one who crossed over what the time is.

I take all the photographs and everything

and I write down my notes about what they

said to me, the time of crossing over.

But basically I wanting to identify who

they were where they were at the time

of crossing 'em over and then anything

that's important about their story.

That's not knowing, not knowable

based on the gravestone or something

that I could publicly research.

Also there seems to be, there seems to

have been a rush of spirits coming here.

And I had a pretty hard boundary, but no

spirits in the house unless it was urgent.

So I'm wanting to understand over

these nine sessions if there's

some kind of portal in the house.

And what I'm doing Maggie, is that on

the phone, there's some interesting

paranormal apps that I've been

learning to use that record the audio.

Cause I'm gonna bit frustrated with

the audio and the zoom in terms of

catching spirits on zoom, in terms

of understanding what I wanna say.

It's always only just to back up what

I'm hearing myself but there's a,

when I'm capturing them and I haven't

gone through and reviewed them on the

app, but there's a lot of German and

European spirits that I'm hearing.

And so what I'm wanting to know is if

any of these spirits come through to

you that are happy to talk, are they to

do with the soldiers across the road?

Were they attached to those soldiers?

Is that how we're getting

all the Europeans here?

I can hear a lot of Germans if any

of them have any understanding or

insights about the technical side

of things that's all good too.

So I'm open to as weird and wonderful

as they wanna bend my mind and open

my mind to the really understanding

what spirits can and can't do when

they're in the non crossed overstate

in terms of my understanding of

their ability to move around.

Cuz my understanding Maggie is that

they, stay where they're either

at the grave or the location where

they're attached emotionally to right.

That they can't just go

whizzing around the world.

They're in this fog.

But I wanna understand how there's

ones here, how they come here is it

because Harry's bringing them in?

Is it because they across the road with a

hospital and all the diggers, the return

soldiers, or is there a portal here?

Anything that any of them can share or

light on and educate us about spirits?

Because I know it helps you as well.

Yeah, absolutely.

It would be fascinating.

Fascinating to me.

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah.

So yeah I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna shy

away and say no to any personal messages,

but yeah, the focus is really, I'm

really being pushed to to do the writing.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I'll say when I was clearing my mind and

meditating a little bit before I jumped

on and I instantly, and again, this is

not a surprise to me, but I instantly

could felt arch angel, Michael, and I

know that you work a lot with him, so

that wasn't surprising to me, but I did

feel like he particularly made himself

known to me because this work that you're

doing today is part of your purpose.

And I did get the feeling.

That maybe not today, but previously

your work has been more scattered

and more loose in different areas.

And so I feel like he specifically

came through and wanted us to know that

this is what you should be working on.

That, yeah, it's

just different because and I'm

really comfortable with that.

I really enjoy working with the spirits

and the dead, so to speak but it's

this whole new mind shift on because I

see this as in the zone, in the flow.

I, like it.

But it's that whole What happens to

my clients and how do I transition?

Like you don't make money off

this is spiritual service.

You know what I mean?

So it's that.

Yeah.

I get that.

I get that really strongly.

And I get that's why I'm being pushed

in this, direction, but it's yeah, might

take my little human mind a while to

fully trust myself, like I do trust,

but it's also that a bit out there.

yeah.

And I think that you have a very

unique skill and you have a very unique

way of piecing different things together.

Whereas there's a lot of teachers

out there that would maybe.

Only want to do a certain

part of this work.

Whereas I feel like you actually

get out there and you do what

you're saying, you're doing, you

teach what you're talking about.

You're connecting to these

spirits firsthand, and then you're

taking what you're learning.

You're taking that knowledge and that

information, and you're sitting with it.

You are unfolding it, you are

talking to your guides about it.

You're asking for clarity on it.

You're bringing other people

in to get other people's points

of view and other perspectives.

And then you're putting that out there

in modalities that is teachable to

other people, whether it's through

your podcast or through writing.

And I think that's what makes this

work very unique from other spiritual

teachers that do things similar.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And that's the thing is I'm

trying to, I am trying to learn.

Trying to learn from the paranormal

community, because I have such a strong

reaction negatively towards ghost hunting.

But say for example one of the things

that's happened now is a watcher and this

will be a really big, this particular one

spirit that I really hope comes through.

So I was, I invited to do a paranormal

podcast and I was like, oh, pretty

strong feelings on paranormal stuff.

Let me listen to your podcast

and then I'll agree afterwards.

And I started listening to the podcast

and I thought, you know what, no,

I just, my message is important.

I'll go on anyway.

Even it offends every single

person that listens to that

podcast I'm meant to go on it.

So I started listening to an episode so I

could just get a feel of the guy and he's

a lovely guy and he had a ghost hunter on

and I only listened to half an hour of the

session only cuz that was all the amount

of time I could allocated that moment.

Not cause I didn't like the episode.

I was fascinated by the episode and I

went and found the person's website and

Like half an hour later, the person that

they were talking about that this ghost

hunter had written the whole book on, came

in the room and I'm like, you're joking.

And I was like, that's pretty fast.

And why, did we allow them

to come into the room?

This is not a child, Harry . I thought we

were just doing children that were urgent.

Why is this one?

And I felt like there's also some

new connection now to where I see

particularly known growth hunters

or whatever, talking about people.

It's as soon as I have this thought

string now, and that spirit seems

to know that I have the real

human will to cross them over.

They have the human will

decision that they wanna go.

Now that the time and space collapses

in the heat, which is a new thing for

me yeah, so yeah, anytime Angela, like

I got to the point, I was like how come

your angels just don't cross them over?

And then I remembered and realized

angels can't interfere with human will.

So if you die and you don't wanna

cross over the angels, won't interfere.

And if you decide not to cross over

the angels, can't interview fear with

you wanting to cross over, they've

gotta connect you with a human being.

Who's able to do that, or

you've gotta do it yourself.

So yeah, I'm still learning in terms

of who brings them to me, how they

understand that suddenly I know

that they are there is it gonna

be from now on fast as every time?

I read a book or see something where

I know there's a location within,

with somebody who hasn't crossed over,

is it gonna be I'm curious to know.

Yeah.

Cause I've gotta retrain

my nervous system as well.

Cause there's that little

bit of that as well.

Yeah, I'll say I'm on the same

page with you when it comes to my own

personal experiences that I've had of

late as well, where in the past, I feel

like we've always thought that spirits

were contained to one area, but I've

ha I also have had spirits come to me

because they know that I can help them.

Yeah.

And so I feel like that is maybe

information that has either changed, but

I'm more feeling like it was just never

accurate information that we just assumed

that spirits could not move around.

And I think that a lot of times

that's the case, but it's not because

they can't, it's more so because

they're not able to within the

certain conditions that they are in.

But I think that once

they make a decision.

Whether that decision is, Hey, I'm

going to attach to this person I'm

going to attach to this object,

or I want help to cross over.

I think once they make that

decision, they're able to do that.

That's what I've been experiencing lately.

So hopefully that gives you some

insight onto why they're coming through.

I don't feel like there's a portal

or anything like that around you.

I do feel like they're drawn to you

specifically because you have the

intention to cross over spirits.

Now, if they're coming to much,

if they're coming in at times that

you're uncomfortable with you would

need, to reestablish those boundaries

and ask your spirit team to come

in and set those parameters for.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And that's what I do.

It's only when I'm at home during the

day if any guests are here, no had

no weekends hard, no weekdays it was

just like this morning at 5:00 AM.

I went outside and it's and you

can hear them say down, down Yep.

Yep.

And sometimes the spirits will still

push our boundaries, especially if it's

a spirit, that's desperate, a spirit

that is still really needing help.

But you should just reaffirm

those and say, no, not right now.

You can come back to me

during the set times.

And I've actually had to,

do that lately as well.

I had a, friend of mine who came into

the shop and said that there was a spirit

that had passed away behind her house.

He kept coming in help me.

And she's I don't know how to help you.

I don't know what to do.

And so I told her, I said, I will

fill in and let him, I said, you

let him know that I will help him.

And I will reach out and fill in.

And sure enough, within a couple

days he came to me and I was able

to connect to him from my house.

I never had to go to her house or

anything like that, which I wasn't

sure if I would have to I, went ahead

and told her I would if I needed to.

But I was able to cross

him over from my home.

Yeah.

I, understand it as remote viewing

where you are seeing them in

that location where they are.

And I have done that before with the

diggers in France, I've remote, viewed the

cemetery in France and they crossed over,

but it was just usually only client based.

Session based spirits would come in, but

now it's I'm not even remote viewing that.

Yeah.

They're just coming here from wherever,

any time any, location around the world?

Yeah.

So it was just, it's just this

huge change in the activity.

And I feel like that, like

I said, I feel like that has a lot

to do with your intention and your

ability to help these spirits.

And it's like, when they make that same

intention and they have that same ability

to where they're needing your help and

they're wanting your help and then their

spirit can energetically meet with yours.

And there's not any extra steps that's

needed because the intentions match.

Yeah.

And it's mental celebrity, right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Cool.

All right.

I think that's all I had to say.

all right.

So I'll just fill in and, see if there's

anybody that's wanting to come through.

Thank you.

Okay.

The name George came to me.

I am feeling like this was

maybe a graveside connection,

cuz I keep seeing a graveyard.

Okay.

Yep.

I am feeling like

this may be a soldier.

Okay.

So is this someone

I've just turned over the

page, whether there's a George who?

Soldier?

Yep.

Okay.

Okay,

great.

He would be one of my

very first, last year.

Okay.

So

We're we'll connect with him.

And, do you do you want any

other validation from me or do

you wanna ask him questions now?

No, I would just

wanna leave it to you.

Okay.

You knew the brief outline and the kind of

stuff just let's see what he has to say.

All right.

So I'm feeling like he's making me feel

like when he was ready to cross that

he, he knew that you could help him.

He knew that you, were willing

to, help him in this situation.

And he was ready.

He's making me feel like

that's what he wanted.

There was there wasn't any any kind

of force that was really needed.

This is how he's making me feel

is that he truly was ready.

The number 18 keeps coming up for me.

Don't know if this is the year anything,

but that number does keep coming.

I'm feeling some heaviness back here.

And that's when I'm asking about

cause of death so there is some

sensation in the back of my head.

There's also some sensation

in my chest as well.

He keeps bringing up a dog.

It seems like it's a small dog.

He doesn't feel very old.

He feels quite young.

Yeah.

Yeah.

He's making me feel like

he, he just wasn't ready.

At the time of his death that he did

not feel like he had he had completed.

His life.

And I do feel like that was

probably because of his age.

He does.

He doesn't feel old

to me.

Yeah.

Is he is he George from Belgium?

Do you get a yes or a no for that?

He feels like a yes.

Yeah.

Okay.

It just, it feels like he didn't

it almost feels he he didn't

really want to join the services.

He didn't want to okay.

To be a soldier, but it almost felt

like he was, he felt obligated.

And so he was excited to have it over

done with come back home and live life.

And he felt like that was taken from

him cuz he never got to make it back.

Is how I'm feeling.

He is making me feel a lot of a

lot of heaviness, a lot of grief.

Just a feeling of, being homesick.

That's really all he's bringing through to

me.

Does he have any message that

he'd like to impart about his experience?

Between dying and me crossing him over

does he have any insight into what

happened for him in that waiting time?

He's making he's, saying

it felt like a being in a dream

is how he's describing it.

It's it's it, feels the same way

you feel in a dream where part of

you normally knows that it's not,

it feels like it's not real, but you

also can't control what's going on.

And he said, that's how he felt is

that he didn't have control of what

he wanted and what he wanted to do.

It felt like he was in a

dream and never ending dream.

He also said that he had

a lot of fear with him.

As far as when he would encounter

other people, it was he would just

be overcome with this immense fear

that would make him want to run

from them and, get away from them.

And he's saying he feels like he carried

that over because he was scared in death.

There was a lot of fear surrounding or

surrounding him when he was dying and

it's it's like that came with him and

would project into everything else.

And basically like an, a never

ending like an ever ending nightmare

is what he's making me feel like.

And he is, he's making me feel

confused there's, just things that,

that just don't make sense when

you're in that dreamlike state.

And he couldn't make sense of

what was real and what wasn't.

And he's just making me feel like he

just lost himself is how it feels.

And does he have any insight

for us now that he has crossed over?

Does he know what his has?

Is he willing to share the purpose

of that lifetime or any insights

about what's next for him?

He is saying that he's saying that like,

when you encountered him, instead of

him normally like feeling that fear and

that, that confusion he said that it's

it was like, you were a light for him.

And he felt drawn to you and he

didn't feel that fear because it's

like he had this inner knowing

that you could help that go away.

And so even though most of the time

he had all of this confusion and this

fear, it would be, it was different.

And he's making me feel like that's normal

for people who do this kind of work.

And that's why they can find us because

we are like a beacon and they're drawn to

us because if they're willing and they're

ready they'll, draw, they'll come to us.

And so that's how he's describing that

is you were like a light and it's like

it's, everything's cloudy and Misty.

And like you're a light that he can, see.

He's saying that his purpose

was to be earthbound.

Oh, okay.

Interesting.

Yeah, he's saying that that was part

of his experience and he needed to

experience overcoming fear in death and

overcoming the separation of the soul.

His soul needed to

experience that part of it.

And also interesting.

Yeah, I've never heard a

spirit tell me that before.

I've heard other people say that, but I've

never heard, had a spirit tell me that.

That's very cool.

He's also saying like his, another

another life purpose for him was

learning that, how was he saying.

He's bringing it back up that, homesick

feeling that he was giving me and

he's saying that it was, he needed to

learn that being connected to himself

is what his home, not truly being

alive and being in a physical body.

And that when he became separated

from his soul when he was, split,

that he stayed homesick the same way.

He felt homesick when he

had to become a soldier.

And so he's saying that homesick feeling

was a big lesson that he had to learn.

And he even had to learn it by when

he became detached and he became

earthbound and he had to learn that

reconnecting to his soul and to his

spirit is what the true feeling of

home is and not where you're at.

Or anything like that.

So he's saying that is also part

of what he was meant to learn.

Okay.

Wow.

Great.

He's also just saying he needed

to experience different like different

polarities and different angles.

And part of this angle was dying at a

young age versus dying at an old age.

That was just a different angle

that he needed to experience.

And he's saying that the crossing over

aspect for him was like returning home.

It felt like being reconnected with

everything that is important to you just

being accepted and loved and everything

that he had been craving, everything

that he thought he lost, it felt like

all of that just rushed back to him.

Okay.

He's making me feel like when

you crossed him over, it was like.

It was a very desperate moment for him.

Like he felt like he was never going

to be happy and be fulfilled again.

He was always gonna have that

just hollow, homesick feeling.

And so he was it was very,

difficult and very, hard and very

confusing and very rough for him.

So he is making me feel like it

was it, he was definitely ready.

It was everything that he wanted

and that he couldn't be more

happy and gracious for your help.

And now he's just making me feel

happy and, loved and confirming

that he just feels yeah, that

he just feels re reconnected

with his soul and with himself.

Did you wanna ask him anything?

No.

Unless he has a final message.

Nope.

Just thank you.

He just says thank you.

You're welcome.

Thank you.

So how did that go

with what you had about him?

I didn't have anything about him

because at the time I just had this list.

Oh this was, oh God, maybe I didn't

date it, unfortunately, but this is

like August or September last year.

And this is when white Wolf came in.

Who's my animal spirit guide.

And he told me that, I had

to go find the soldiers.

I'm

like, that is really weird.

I will show you this before

I connected with you.

I, don't know if you can see it.

I wrote down Wolf.

Do you see that?

Yep.

Yep.

Yep.

Wolf and boys.

Yes.

Yes.

So things were the boys that

the Wolf asked me to go fine.

I didn't know why it came through.

I was just like, if I was like,

I'll write it down and if it

comes up in our conversation,

but so yeah, that's really weird.

cause I didn't know I was

gonna connect with him.

I just I, said that I wanted my intention

to match your intention and that we would

connect to whoever needed to come through.

And then I wrote down Wolf and voice.

Yeah, that's really good.

Weird

there's well,

there's, , there's 12 of them.

That one when then was George Mond

Hak and his memorials at Belgium.

And I was directed to the

the war graves website.

And I literally had to go through,

I can't remember what it was.

I think I might've got done with my

pendulum something, and then I sat

there and we went through this list

it's a huge website with all the

soldiers and we went through the records

one by one it's from crossing over.

Yes, no, this one.

Yes.

No, yes.

and we got 12, but there you go.

So yeah, that's a remote.

That was a remote crossing over

yeah, one of my first, so he would've

been I'm not sure whether he was

Bo war or world war I, but yeah, it

was the war memorials grave site.

Yeah.

And see there's, some connection because

I purchased a house directly opposite

the return servicemen and leagues section

of the hospital, which rehabilitates

return veterans so it's like really?

Yeah.

There's a strong, there's a strong

military link there somewhere.

So that's the, I find that fascinating.

Considering I don't have any

family history with the military.

Yeah.

I feel like that's for a reason

though I feel like you'll, come to,

what that means for you, for sure.

Yeah, for sure.

Yep.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

And that is the end of this episode.

I'd like to thank you for listening

and I'll let you know that I've done a

lot of research on George Esmond Haggy

and read his letters from war back to

his family found photos, and I'm hoping

to include them in a book that I will

be writing at the end of this season

so that you can put the face to the.

So to keep in the loop, head to my

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told when that book is released.

Also interesting insights is that I have

understood, some of the links between

George and other people that we have

interviewed in this season of the podcast,

which I'll reveal in the book as well.

and I wanted to just remind you that

if you feel as though you may have

an attached spirit, an earthbound

spirit, then it's in the best and

highest interest of your soul and

their soul to cross them over.

You can head to my website and book

a collection of sessions so that

we can remove these attachments.

It's known as Spirit Releasement therapy,

and there's nothing frightening about it.

But it's very, very important to

release these souls to the light.

So important that we'll be doing

a whole season coming up soon on