The past is not just a series of events; it's a blueprint for our present and future."
Katische Haberfield
The Ethical Evolution Podcast:
Katische Haberfield Guest Appearance
Katische Haberfield discusses her personal experience with past lives and self-sabotage in this podcast episode. She shares her journey of frustration, feeling stuck, and seeking answers through various healing modalities. Katische recounts her Akashic Records session, where she explored a past life that contributed to her current self-sabotaging patterns. The session revealed themes of abandonment, self-punishment, and disconnection from source.
Some key takeaways from the episode include ¹:
- Past Life Regression: Katische emphasizes the importance of exploring past lives to understand personal experiences and patterns.
- Self-Sabotage: She discusses how self-punishment from past lives can manifest as self-sabotage in the present.
- Akashic Records: The session provided insight into Katische's soul journey and helped her understand the purpose of her experiences and was a catalyst for training in Clinical Hypnotherapy and Past Life Regression Therapy.
- Healing and Release: The episode concludes with a sense of healing and release, as Katische shares her newfound understanding and compassion for her soul's journey.
The episode offers a personal and emotional exploration of past lives and self-sabotage, providing listeners with a deeper understanding of the complexities of the human experience.
https://katische.com/selfsabotage to learn more about the specific past life experience.
Transcript
Ethical Change Podcast
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Belinda Heit: There's a change happening in the way we live, the way we work, the way we spend our money, and make our decisions. We are evolving to be more conscious in our actions in a way that serves a world that makes it a better place. Welcome to The Ethical Evolution. The Ethical Evolution Podcast is brought to you by Ethical Change Agency.
I'm Bindi. I'm the founder, and my mission is to help ethical entrepreneurs and holistic healers to find their voice. Through spiritual coaching and podcasting, I'm honored to bring you the stories of those who create change through healing, kindness, innovation, purpose, and spirit. Understanding that to create collective change, we need to be the change.
It all begins with us.[00:01:00]
Hey, before we get into this episode, I just wanted to let you know that you can now grab my album of Guided Meditations. It's called Source by Spirit and is on all streaming platforms, including Spotify, apple Music, Amazon Title, YouTube, music, and many more. There's 11 guided meditations ranging from four minutes through to 10 minutes to help you reset your mind and your body at any time.
Okay, now let's get on with the show. Kati Berfield channels Archangel Z Kill and is a certified clinical hypnotherapist, past life regression therapist, medium Ghost Rescue medium, author, poet, and student of Understanding the Soul. She developed the happiest moments of my soul after a discussion with Archangel Z Kill who instructed her that [00:02:00] finding small moments of happiness was imperative for human beings.
At this time in our development. Join me as my fellow fellow Brisbane dweller takes us on a journey of past lives and spiritual connection. Welcome Katische to the Ethical Evolution.
Katische Haberfield: Thanks for having me, Bindi. It's lovely you spoke to, oh, I can't speak Lovely to speak to another fellow Aussie. That's how excited I am because I can't even get my words out.
They're going backwards.
Belinda Heit: Yes. Um, it, like, it is blowing our minds that we're actually speaking to someone in, in Brisbane at the moment. We're both in the same, uh, local basically. Um, and, uh, less than 30 minutes from each other. So it's a, a bit of a mind trip for both of us. Um, but this has been literally for me, two years in the making.
You're right around the corner and, uh, someone on the other side of the world recommended I speak to you and here we are. So this is incredible. Now, Kish, for those people who dunno who you are and what you do, can you go ahead and tell us?
Katische Haberfield: Okay, so I'm [00:03:00] a past life regression therapist. I'm an author, um, medium, a poet, a ghost rescue medium, and about a billion other hats.
Um. It just depends upon what, uh, our channel of the archangels archangels, uh, spirit Releasement therapist, depends what they need me to do today or tomorrow or next week. Um, so very frustrating to try and pin down what I do into one sentence, but when you are wanting to share a message on a podcast, they ask you to make it specific.
And so I just chose one aspect, and one of the things I've been asked to talk about is, uh, the work that I've been doing with Archangel Z. And so that sort of connects us back to your previous guest because she was the first person who ever told me about my connection with the archangels.
Belinda Heit: These podcasts, I tell you what, they're, they're, they're powerful.
Uh, and they bring us all together, whether we're around the corner or on the other side of the world. And I love that. Um, but [00:04:00] I'm always curious, uh, when I'm talking to someone who channels messages or spirit, whatever it might be, I myself do the same thing. Um, is. When you're talking to me, are you getting the messages right now?
Katische Haberfield: No. No. 'cause I haven't set an intention.
Belinda Heit: Mm-hmm.
Katische Haberfield: So I, uh, have learned the very hard way to set, uh, boundaries about opening and closing doors. Mm-hmm. Uh, in terms of talking with spirits. So the only time that I would get a message come through is I have a very bossy personality, which is a different avatar.
So this, uh, I call him a Mr. Bossy, Mr. Wisdom. He's, uh, a character who's actually on my podcast 'cause I do some of my own sessions as well. Um, who resides, um, in a totally different. System, the different dimension, different planet. And he's a lion. A lion being, and he is, [00:05:00] uh, a lecturer on how to be human. So he lectures non-human beings, spiritual beings on humanness and when they're ready to come in.
'cause there's a huge queue of people coming, not people beings wanting to come into earth. They attend sessions. And the me in that existence is a lion who's like a lecturer and. He interrupts sometimes to give me wisdom, which I've only just really recently realized is my super bossy. So sometimes I will butt in and say something to someone and be really insistent about a spiritual wisdom thing.
And sometimes it can kind of, I can feel like, what am I doing? Why am I, why can't I just, and I only just learned that that's him going, you know, like, be, be beep, beep, beep. He, you know, information incoming and they don't have a choice and we need to tell 'em this now. But yeah. Um, no, otherwise it's, it's fairly distinct and [00:06:00] separate, you know, they'll come in and talk to me all the time, but yeah.
Not, um, not specifically anybody else or on a podcast or anything like that. It's, it's, that's specific intention or invitation, so to speak. They like to be invited because, uh, unless there's a sole contract or something
Belinda Heit: mm-hmm.
Katische Haberfield: Then, then they'll give me an insight. So, yeah. No, it's, it's, um. Otherwise I'd have too many people wanting to talk to me.
Yeah,
Belinda Heit: I, um, I quite often get, um, you know, like a direction on where I should go with like, conversations like this, because I sit down with you, I don't do any preparation, so yeah. I'm completely going with the flow. And so quite often I'll be like, like, it's almost like I get these threads and it's, it's kind of like, you need to go down this one, or no, don't go down this one.
And it's kind of like, like last night I had the same kind of thing and after I'd finished speaking to the person, I was like, I really wanted to go down this, uh, avenue, but I didn't because of these reasons. And so those kind of things happened for me, [00:07:00] right, when I'm talking to people like this. Um, and you know, even in everyday life, like just, just random things will pop up, but like you, I've learned to I guess have boundaries around that as well.
Um, I used to get it when I used to go past to Wong Cemetery. Oh, okay. Yeah. I used to get messages there all the time and I was like, okay, what is going on here? Yeah. For those people listening from overseas, it's a local cemetery here, um, that I used to drive past all the time, and I'd be like, what's going on here?
Um, now we know. So do
Katische Haberfield: you do go, did you ghost rescue work? No,
Belinda Heit: I do
Katische Haberfield: not.
Belinda Heit: No.
Katische Haberfield: Okay. Yeah. Okay. See, I've spent a lot of time at Tong Cemetery crossing over ghosts, so they were probably trying to say, Hey, I'm here and get you a message, because it took me a very long time of going to that cemetery first. I used to go there and just take photos.
Yeah. And be overwhelmed with grief. And then I was always like, no, I hate [00:08:00] ghost hunters. I hate, I'd never wanna do a nighttime tour. And it was only, again, through Megan, uh, my first time that I. Started doing a lot of ghost rescue work. I was, um, sent to the Balmoral bal main cemetery.
Belinda Heit: Mm-hmm.
Katische Haberfield: And basically I'd heard a ra, a radio segment on B 1 0 5.
Belinda Heit: Mm-hmm.
Katische Haberfield: And Giselle, one of our local radio stations, and a lady had said that, uh, her son and daughter had used to spoke, used to speak to a ghost as a little boy ghost. And I was like, that cemetery's down the road from me. And so I went there and I was like, I don't know, you know, can I really do this? And when I went there, literally, and I took videos of it, it's on my website.
Mm-hmm. And it was on that B 1 0 5 website. Uh, the angels all came with me. All the clouds just went into this massive formation, shapes of [00:09:00] angels. And then they took me down to, 'cause I can't see them unless I see them in my third eye. I only see them in my third eye if there's a past life connection.
Belinda Heit: Mm-hmm.
Katische Haberfield: Um, and so I went down there and I'm like, this feels like it's the right spot. And then I was like, no, hang on. One more over. And there was like two little boys there. And one, then I went forward and I felt him jump on my back and so he jumped on me like a backpack.
Belinda Heit: Mm.
Katische Haberfield: And um, then there was this like big vortex in the air and I started crying and he went up in the light and then I took a photo and the photos, the clouds changed into the formation of a mum holding her baby.
And then I sort of, um, walked back up. And a whole bunch of other things happened. And from that moment on, I've been like officially on the team of Ghost Rescue in Brisbane and all over the world. [00:10:00] And I said to Megan, I think I'm supposed to write a book about this, but I don't know if what I did was really true.
Right? And so I hired her as a medium to bring through and I said, let's, let's uh, see if you can bring through some of these ghosts who I crossed over so they can confirm it and they can tell their story. And so we did a whole season of my podcast of her being a medium, bringing through the gross, the, oh, what?
I can't talk Wow. Ghost that I had crossed over and they all confirmed. And then in the one where Megan, um, brought through the little boy, Harry, who I, I like, I have a photo of him now 'cause I've been in communication with his extended family. Mm. Harry became a spirit guide to me. And so he would send me, you've gotta go here, there and everywhere and cross, cross, uh, ghost over.
And they were all babies to start with. And then, um, in that mediumship interview that's on my podcast with Megan, Megan [00:11:00] started laughing. I'm like, what is it? And she goes, Harry said, thank you for rescuing me again. What? I said, what do you mean again? And she said, you know Harry from a past lifetime and you rescued him in a past life.
Really? I was like, you're joking. What do you mean by rescue? And, and he just said, go figure it out. So the other, there's another episode of my podcast where, um, I hire somebody else, Cindy, to take me. She doesn't buy the Kasic records into the past life where I met Harry. Wow. And in that lifetime, I did rescue Harry.
But it was not, he wasn't a ghost. He was a, a human being. He was a little boy. And we lived in India together.
Belinda Heit: Oh my God,
Katische Haberfield: that is incredible. So the story, that incredible story you can listen to is about me rescuing Harry and, um, the, I was a Brahman at that time and it's been really interesting 'cause I've, uh, traveled [00:12:00] to Nepal and all around the world, but I've always been really, um, not wanting to visit India.
Nothing against Indian people. Very beautiful people. My parents have always lived next door to Indians. When I went to high school on student exchange, I was billeted with an Indian family, but I always refused to go to India. And when we did this past lifetime, I understand why, because the trauma that was still in my body from trying to rescue this boy, um, and what had happened to him, and then how that reflected upon my life in that lifetime.
'cause it made major, major changes in my lifetime. And what I learned through that is the connections that we have through people, uh, the people that we meet on podcasts and the people that come on as guests and my clients.
Belinda Heit: Mm-hmm.
Katische Haberfield: They're all, it's all interconnected. We're so, every single person that I've had on my podcast so far, I've had a past life with
Belinda Heit: Get Outta Town, [00:13:00] just outta interest, including Megan, get out.
How many episodes have you done?
Katische Haberfield: Uh, we've done, I've done 137, but I think 60% of those are past life sessions. Wow. 17% are interviews. The rest are pretty much mediumship sessions, like the ones with Megan, uh, ghost Rescue or, you know, there's a few bits. Oh, they're channeling Z kil sessions. Yeah. So, but yeah, so it's like I, I started Yeah.
Things just come to you for a reason. Mm-hmm. And if you don't run into somebody in your physical life. Like, I could run into you in a shopping center somewhere, who knows? Mm. But I didn't. So Megan was brought in to introduce us and it took us two years for that to happen. But here we are. Yeah.
Belinda Heit: It was meant to be.
Uh, 'cause you kept coming back around. Um, that is absolutely fascinating. Now I've had, um, guests on this show that I've [00:14:00] done, uh, past regression, um, work with. Um, I've done like full blown sessions, which were mind blowing. Um, but also, um, the most recent one, um, guest name was, uh, Colby Metfield, uh, from the States.
She, um, I said to her, you know, like when you go to a place like you were just talking about India and um, in 2022 I went to LA and I was like, I felt like I'd been there before. Like I hadn't. Physically in this life. But it was like, I knew every backstreet I felt like I was home. I now just, everything felt familiar.
And she goes, that's because you are a Hollywood director in the 1930s in Hollywood.
Katische Haberfield: That's interesting. And I'm not gonna tell you why publicly, but that's interesting. Yes.
Belinda Heit: And she said, um, and you drank yourself to death in this life. I'm actually working with a [00:15:00] Hollywood media company right now, um, working on podcasts and records.
So it's a whole different stream, but it's like, oh my God. Like it really resonated with me. I was like, I feel that, like to my core. Yep. And it was very different to. The other past regression work that I'd done where like, we went right back to like, I think, I think one of the lives I was seaweed or something like that.
It was like insane. Oh,
Katische Haberfield: cool. Yeah, that was,
Belinda Heit: yeah. Um, another one, I was a bird, another one. I was a Greek slave. Um, and watched myself get murdered. It was just insane. Um, yeah, this stuff like, it helps you understand this life and where you're at and why you react to things the way you do, where your traumas hits, what you're holding physically, all of those kind of things.
And how you can heal yourself in this life to like brag patterns in the work that you do. [00:16:00] Do you see this with people as well?
Katische Haberfield: Yeah, absolutely, because I, I work with so many aspects of it, so I work with this lifetime, so I do hypnotherapy with regression to present life, so to check out if there's anything that's holding you back from earlier in lifetime.
And then we take it back to past lives, lifetimes on other planets, other dimensions. And then I do the spirit releasement therapy, so to see if you've got any, uh, ghosts attached to you, any negative entities, if there's any demons affecting your lifetime. Um, and, uh, if you have devices, implants of any sort.
And generally speaking, um, that sort of encompasses, uh, I do the between lives as well. And so, you know, I mean, technically supposed to do them all in separate sessions in different modalities for therapeutic reasons, for insurance purpose reasons. But, uh, what I find is they're all interrelated and [00:17:00] usually.
For example, if I have clients who come today, they might come back in a year's time or two years time, not because the thing that they came to before wasn't healed, but that layer is done. And so there might be another aspect because we make decisions and choices in every moment. And so they had that thing looked at, they healed that emotional removed, whatever that was, got clarity, uh, understood a limiting belief.
And then they decided to make a decision, which took them that way instead of that way. And so now this thing here has gone, okay, so you're doing 80% of what you want to do here, but there's something holding you back. Let's have a look at that. So it's just, uh, fascinating because it's not like the people that come to me for sessions, they don't see it at necessarily as.
Well, they don't see it as, there's something wrong with me. They see it as it's an adventure. I wanna understand myself better. I wanna understand why I'm making the [00:18:00] decisions I'm making. Uh, I wanna understand why I find things repulsive or disgusting or fascinating or why I feel jealous about this sort of thing.
And why might there be something that is, I mean, romance is a really good one. Why do I keep thinking about that bloke from primary school? Or why do I keep wondering what happened to that fellow from my ex student exchange or whatever? And how come, you know, things didn't work out the way they did? And what, do I have a whole contract with this person?
Is that why they keep coming up? You know, I've forgi done all the forgiveness works, I've healed all the regrets, but they're still there. Is that because we've made some kind of a decision together up there, and now I have to wait for them to do their work and then we'll do the next phase? Uh, or, you know, it's, it's really quite fascinating like that in terms of.
Uh, understanding and, and mostly, I mean, I've done, oh, I don't know, I've got eight of my own on the podcast, but I've done over, uh, 20, 25, 30 sessions, [00:19:00] formal sessions. And then now I can also do them in the moment, uh, even through writing poetry I can and access past lives. And also like you from going to places like The Tower of London.
Mm. I walked in there in the u, um, what was that? I don't even remember when I went for the first nine, five at the end of uni and walked, we went on a, uh, a holiday, a friend, and I went backpacking, and I walked into the Tower of London and I saw the rack and I went, Ugh, been here. Don't like it, done that.
And it took me until I started the podcast and I did my first official session. With, with a friend helping me that I went to my first lifetime that was involved in the Tower of London. And, uh, then I went to a second lifetime that was down the road from the Tower of London, actually in, uh, Westminster [00:20:00] Abbey.
Wow. As a monk. That's incredible. And I was like, well, there you go. That's deja vu. And that's interesting. And that took me a very long time to be ready to heal. That
Belinda Heit: you just reminded, you just reminded me. Um, I went to Tasmania, um, some years back and there's a, a, an old, um, convicts women's prison in Richmond.
And I walked into one of those cells and I just, like, I got, I got this deathly cold on me and I just went, ah, I gotta get outta here. And I was just like, mm, something's happened in here and I was out. But it was like, it was like something like, like inexplainable happened in that space and I was, yeah.
Katische Haberfield: Yeah. So you, would you describe yourself as, um, as being empathic as well? Oh yeah. Very sensitive. Yeah. Yeah. So what you can sense in, and I did the same. I was in Alcatraz and I was like, Ooh, mm, don't like this. And what you can sense two things. If it's [00:21:00] cold, you can sense the ghost that's in there, right?
Mm-hmm. So they're still there, you know, but also, uh, depending upon how finely tuned your senses are, you can then sense the trauma. So the negative thought forms, uh, you know, when somebody is tortured in a cell like that, they, um, actually create totally different entities.
Belinda Heit: Mm-hmm.
Katische Haberfield: Based out of the thought form and the pain and the trauma that need to be re reintegrated with the soul.
And then you can also, um, sense any of the red hats, the, you know, negative entities, the hell beings, all of those. You can sense those because, um, jails have so much trauma in there. Mm-hmm. There's, you know, not only the re regret of the people that have committed the acts, there's the, the trauma they receive from the, the prison guards and, um, the, the, the interactions with the cellmates, which are never nice.
Um, and there's just so much thoughtful energy and negative entity and energy, plus their own stuff.
Belinda Heit: Hmm.
Katische Haberfield: [00:22:00] Stuff that you are walking into a melting pot of emotions and that's why so many, um, jails, uh, still have energy of some form there, whether it's, you know, um. The actual person that hasn't gone to the life, or it's some remnant of their energy that needs to be reintegrated into their soul.
So yeah, that's, you know, there could have been multiple things that you were feeling there.
Belinda Heit: Yeah, it was, it was like nothing I've ever felt before. And it was, yeah, it was like very palpable. I was just like, oh, nah, I'm out. Now. I'm curious, how did you get into this stuff? Like, where did it all start? Mm,
Katische Haberfield: so, um, officially it started in Covid, the Covid years.
Mm-hmm. Uh, because we were all at home. Mm-hmm. And I was attracted to a practitioner online, and I did some courses and I did training in, [00:23:00] um, sound therapy. So I got myself some crystal singing balls and did a course online via the uk, started doing, um, uh, what I call shamanic. Sessions and I could take people in and do soul retrievals without even really having done a lot of work.
Mm-hmm. Officially. Um, and I said to a friend, I think I can take them into past lives, immediately through the sound. And they were like, yeah, you can. And I'm like, all right. And that's how the podcast began because I was like, well, I want to go train, train and do this, but I also want to showcase my journey.
Belinda Heit: Mm-hmm.
Katische Haberfield: Um, so that's officially, I mean, previously prior to that, the f other first inkling that led up to it was, um, when my marriage broke down in, um, what was it? So I went through, a friend got locked in syndrome, so she had a bike accident and could only blink.
Belinda Heit: Mm.
Katische Haberfield: Totally paralyzed. Um, then my dad died of prostate cancer and I went through a divorce at the same time.
And when I lived at the, [00:24:00] so I lived, um, on the Sunshine Coast and there's a Buddhist monastery not far.
Belinda Heit: Mm.
Katische Haberfield: Sheik. And so I used to spend my time up in Sheik trying to learn how to heal and. Do mindfulness and meditation and all sorts of, of stuff. And we did a Buddha, um, a um, Buddha Medicine Puja one day because the Rimpoche was, um, unwell.
And so we were all sitting in there and I'd had a lot of, I get a lot of messages through my head. So I come up in, in wealth sometimes when there's issues that need to come through. And I was sitting there doing this, uh, wooden medicine puja and I, I couldn't read the words 'cause they give you all the, the sheets of paper.
And I just suddenly started rocking up and down and I just could not stop crying and I thought I might pass out. I was in that much emotional pain and all the nuns are just looking straight ahead. [00:25:00] And at the end of it, they came over and they said, are you okay? And I said, no. They said. Tell us about it.
And I said, well, the only words I wanted to say is, and all I could think of during that whole time is, oh, mother, I am suffering.
Belinda Heit: Mm-hmm.
Katische Haberfield: And they said, yeah, because you've had a past life with the Gehi and he's your mom. Wow. And I was like, oh, 'cause we're, I, you know, wasn't really my radar back then. And I'm like, right, so what do you do about that?
And they said, well, make sure you come and spend some more time around him. The energy be really good. Of course, I never went back. Oh. It was just like, I had two small kids and every time the guest she happened to be on, uh, I wasn't able to get to his sessions. 'cause you know, two small kids and everything going through a divorce.
And yeah. So my first episode on my podcast was, okay, I had this weird experience and here's my story. Let me just see what happens from here on. [00:26:00] But if you go back even further, the work that I've done, basically, um. It stemmed, it started from birth with a choice to do an incarnation, a a dual incarnation, which I've actually covered this week on my podcast because, uh, basically, um, when I came in, um, one, a version of me who was an alchemist who also lived near the Tower of London, um, he had not crossed over.
And so he came in at the same time as me. 'cause you, your energy knows each other.
Belinda Heit: Yep.
Katische Haberfield: And we, we went into the womb at the same time. And so it took me until I got really sick of people saying. You are a bit dark, you're a bit of an re um, why are you always so pessimistic? And I'm like, but I'm not. I'm a happy loving.
I like fairies and I like pretty things and teacups and [00:27:00] you know, I'm a good brownie. And, um, they're like, no. And I went on to, um, uh, oh, I can't remember. There was this app that you could, uh, app that you could go onto that was just, um, audio only. That was around in 2000. And I went into this room that had these live rooms, can't remember what it's called now.
And I just literally went in, I'm gonna go and listen to this talk that she's giving. As soon as I came into the room, as it just sees, you know, the icon, the lady said, whoever has entered the room, you are not welcome in here. This is my domain. Whoa. And I was like, wow, okay, Ali. And so then I went and, and spoke to uh, uh, a friend who was in, uh, California, and she was a.
Uh, a spirit, very, very beautiful, huge. Like she's the kind of person where you take a photo and she's got this massive golden aura that you see in photos. And she, um, tried. She said to me, I'm gonna have to [00:28:00] do, I'm gonna try. I don't do exorcism, but I'm gonna try and, and remove this
Belinda Heit: mm-hmm.
Katische Haberfield: Person from you.
Um, and we did, we did that and it wasn't successful. She tried her way and then I had another practitioner, um, try and do it as well, and that was her, that was wonderful. But it was horrendous and took me months to recover from that. But, um, it sort of explained a lot about, uh, my childhood when I got through it and I could understand, uh.
Why I had certain sort of gifts that my family didn't have. There's nobody who was a medium or interested in spirituality or even religion in my family.
Belinda Heit: Mm-hmm.
Katische Haberfield: Um, and it was, when I investigated this further, the um, Alchemist sort of explained [00:29:00] his side of the story. 'cause I was obsessed with finding out, you know, how can I be a badie?
You know, why, you know, why would they see such dark energy? And then, you know, about a year later or so, I went and did another session. And in this other session I found that I had been a little pyg pygmy boy in another lifetime. And yeah, this is sounding a lot about me, but yeah, there was this, um, witch doctor.
And the witch doctor sent this bolt of lightning that hit my third eye. And along with it. When a whole bunch of negative entities who were there to design to block my clairvoyance, and it wasn't until I understood the Alchemist story and what he was trying to achieve in his lifetime, and I could see the good in him.
Belinda Heit: Mm.
Katische Haberfield: And, um, understand [00:30:00] that his decisions were influenced by somebody else.
Belinda Heit: Mm.
Katische Haberfield: That I learned to see how we can see ourselves as both negative and positive. You just have to understand what the intent was and that he had harbored rage because he was fed to the lions.
Belinda Heit: Wow. No wonder.
Katische Haberfield: So, yeah, really kind of a crazy background.
So I don't have an easy byline that says, yeah, I, in 2000, my, my, uh, third eye awakened because I use a singing bowl. Well, I did. But you know, there's a million backstories that I've opened by being brave enough to a come on podcast. 'cause a lot of the time when I come on podcasts, a new thing opens, a new insight, a new level of fear is unlocked, a new level of bravery, uh, a new connection is unlocked.
But then also by show casting other people's, uh, lives, I help people understand that it's okay to be interested in this sort of stuff.
Belinda Heit: Mm-hmm.
Katische Haberfield: And then when I put my own on there, you know, I'm screaming in some and [00:31:00] crying and laughing and whatever, and it's, it's bloody embarrassing, but it's like, if I don't do this.
How can we normalize the fact that we are both light and dark?
Belinda Heit: Mm.
Katische Haberfield: And in different incarnations, we take different roles, but we are also always both light and dark because we live in duality. Mm. Which means there is good and good and bad depending upon the perspective that you have. So yes, this time and this action, you might perceive me as being a real nasty person, but if we look at it from my perspective, maybe I was, maybe I was here to learn to.
Be a robber, you know, maybe I decided I wanted the soul growth to, uh, to learn, um, greed and envy and hoarding and all sorts of lessons. And then maybe the next time I come back and I say, right, well now I'm gonna be puritanical and I'm gonna bake everything from scratch and I'm gonna grow everything just from scratch and I'm gonna be super religious and I'm gonna give away all my [00:32:00] wealth because I feel bad about that lifetime, but also have fun.
I've done both.
Belinda Heit: Mm-hmm.
Katische Haberfield: So the whole thing's a bit strange and complicated and weird, but geez, it's fascinating.
Belinda Heit: It's incredible. And can I just say, Kate, I'm, uh, like, the energy I'm feeling cycling through here is like, is quite. I know, I don't know whether you are feeling that, but I'm, I'm getting the, the energy that's coming through and it, it's quite powerful.
Um, and you know, for people who are listening, they probably can't pick it up, but I'm definitely picking it up and I know we're not that far away from each other, but, but I don't think that really matters, but I'm feeling it. Um, and it's also interesting that you talked about the duality and the light and the dark.
And I'm gonna give a shameless plug here, um, because, um, I have an album coming out next month and it's all about coming out of the darkness and into light, and it's called Luminescent, um, coming out January 17. Uh, but it's just so funny that we're having this conversation. It's all about that. And the music is all about that too, which is sound, [00:33:00] energy, vibration.
Katische Haberfield: Yeah. And music is such a powerful healer. Mm. Really powerful healer. Yeah. And you, you know. You can just listen to music and gain greater insights into yourself. I mean, that's why everybody loves music, isn't it? Because you can use it to relax, you can use it to change a vibe in terms of get motivated to go out.
Um, you know, you can use music with different, the waves for focus, relaxation. Mm-hmm. Breakthroughs and insights. And then you can, um, just use music to just, um, I don't know, send love songs and a mix tape to somebody. Do you know what I mean? And depending upon that person, you'll get a different insight, you know?
Um, you know, we all look back at songs and words from the seventies and go, is that what they were saying? And you, you know, had a different I interpretation as a 7-year-old to a 49-year-old, you're like, oh geez. You know, I didn't realize what I was singing about then. Yeah. But that's also a different perspective.
And [00:34:00] that's how music is like, you know, at essence everything is energy.
Belinda Heit: Mm-hmm.
Katische Haberfield: And, you know, energy. And sound are all together. Uh, and it's the sound waves that carry the meaning and the light and words are just sound encoded. And so when you listen to music, you are gaining healing just through the musical transmission because it's pure energy.
It doesn't matter whether or not the person sings, uh, the singing and the musics are a different, um, level of like, it's, it's a stack of levels. I mean, as you know, it's like, first is your intention. What am I gonna create an Albert about? Second is how do I do it? Is it just spoken? Is it spoken word? Am I using light language?
Am I using, you know, um, any form of ancient channeling or codes? Am I gonna put in each musical instrument? And each musical instrument has a different healing property. Mm-hmm. [00:35:00] And then overall, we mix it together and we bake a cake. And depending upon who you are and what you're going through in your life.
You'll get the piece of that cake or the slice of that cake that you're ready for, and you can come back three years later and listen to that same song, a totally different effect.
Belinda Heit: Mm.
Katische Haberfield: So that's why music is so powerful. Mm.
Belinda Heit: Which kind of gives me a bit of a segue into, um, you know, you, uh, are delving a lot more lately into the happiness of the soul.
Um, which, you know, you, you ask people, you know, what makes your soul happy? Um, for me it's music. I, I, I think that that's like my number one and, and also doing exactly what we're doing right now. Yeah. That's the other stuff that jazzes me up. Um, if you were to ask yourself that same question, what would it be?
Katische Haberfield: Yeah, so I did ask myself, and I did two sessions so I could see, and it was really quite weird. It was really quite interesting. So, and you laugh at this, the first thing that we went to was on a spaceship.
Belinda Heit: Mm-hmm.
Katische Haberfield: Okay. And I saw myself putting my [00:36:00] feet over the edge and I had black boots on, and I was like, in an astronaut suit.
And I went down through the clouds into a planet and I had my Robot rover dog with me. And this is like, this is another, this is a task based slice that life that exists there now. And we were going to find, I knew from my report, 'cause I had a checklist that I had to find this sentient being who looked like an astronaut, but there's no bones in behind him.
He was just energy and he was holding a baby. And I had to find out why this, this sentient robot was on the planet holding a baby because the orders for that planet to evacuate had executed, all the ships had left. The planet was in the process of destructing. So all of the gases and everything. So that the beautiful being who's in the middle, like our mother guy could leave safely.
And there's this sentient being [00:37:00] there, um, holding a baby. And we went through the whole scenario to find out what went wrong. And it, and Cindy, who was doing the session for me, said, so I'm a bit confused. How is this the happiest moment of the soul? And so, uh, my, my team of collective, uh, avatars of who I've been said, well, like, she likes babies.
So we showed you a baby. There was a baby in that scene. Did you not get that? Like, and then, uh, don't you think about this, uh, too hard. But she likes to rescue ghosts in this lifetime. And so we just showed her rescuing a robot and a baby on a planet that is being in the process of disintegrating. And they showed me how, um, there are teams of people who are involved in checking that every planet.
Has every form of sentience removed before it's destroyed. And so there is a version of, uh, me that [00:38:00] works with teams to ensure that in every planet, in every dimension, every location. And they're like, so can you see why you sort of got into this in this lifetime? And I was like, and that's why it's like, it's compelling.
I didn't know it made me happy, but apparently it does. And I keep getting drawn back to it. And the reason that they, um, asked me to do the happiest Moments of the soul was because I was getting too emotional writing my ghost book. And they said, you need a break. And the only way we can force you to have a break is we're gonna command you to do something different.
And the reason we're gonna command you to do something different is because right round in the world you are getting distressed because there are tidal waves. Mm-hmm. Um, earthquakes, there are wars and disasters. And your brain is going, I can't be everywhere. And uh, at the same time, you're loving auroras and we wanna teach you some of the things that you already know.
And one of them is to focus on the small things. And we want you to show people [00:39:00] that sometimes the things that they think are making them happy are sometimes they're not. But sometimes there's a deeper meaning to the things that they think are making them happy, but they can't quite understand why. And so I understood really weird things like why there's a certain part of my personality that likes checklists and procedures and spreadsheets.
Mm-hmm. Which is this to do with this guy who checks off lists. There's a part of me that understood why I got really emotional. I used to be a university lecturer, uh, why I was really emotional that I didn't stay in university lecturing. And then because, well, you're this blind dude who goes and teaches non-human beings how to be human beings.
And then. Why do I always cry around babies? Why do I love babies? Like, uh, why do they bring me joy? Because you like baby everything. And then they're like, so when you do a really hard incarnation, we send you a baby cat. A baby
Belinda Heit: dog.
Katische Haberfield: A baby, or whatever it is. You know, you like baby, [00:40:00] anything baby planets.
And so we wanna show you that. Um. Sometimes it's the unexpected things that bring you happiness, but sometimes it's the really complicated things that make you happy and you're a really complicated person this time round, so we're trying our hardest to make you happy, but jeez, you chose a lot of things to do.
Could you just calm down for a bit and just enjoy, enjoy it, and, um, try doing something different so that we can rest your brain so you don't blow up trying to bloody, you know, find every bloody ghost on earth.
Belinda Heit: Oh my God, my cheeks hurt from smiling so much. That was hilarious. Wow. Oh, and it all makes sense though, like when you, it does, when you understand those connections, it's just, it just makes total sense and you're like, oh, well yeah, that makes sense.
You know, like, why do we do the things we do? Why do we like the things we like? Why do we behave the way we do? It's all got a deeper meaning and it's hidden somewhere that you can't see. [00:41:00] And Yep, that's right. So when you can connect with that, it's just like, well, Kia, duh, as you said.
Katische Haberfield: Yep.
Belinda Heit: Now tell me more.
So
Katische Haberfield: my, sorry,
Belinda Heit: tell me more about the Angels. 'cause thi this stuff fascinates me. I've had several guests on the show as well who've talked about, you know, angels appearing for them, like physically appearing for them, um, in, um, certain moments. And like they've left physical, you know, signs for them on where they should go.
Um, what happens for you? I mean, you described that, uh, one with a little boy, Harry, but what happens for you when they appear? Okay, so
Katische Haberfield: the most powerful way that they've appeared to me is actually just, it's hard to explain, but when you go to sleep and just before you wake up. You are not in your body.
Mm-hmm. You've actually left and gone [00:42:00] somewhere on an adventure for the evening. You're just the shell. And I can, I have had it several uh, moments where I've literally heard, heard, felt, and heard and felt
as I've reentered. And then right in the third eye there will be the brightest of bright eye, the blue or gold and um, it's the angels, but in the symbolism and you cannot move. It's like paralyzing. Like it's just like they've taken over my in here.
Belinda Heit: Mm-hmm.
Katische Haberfield: And I can't move 'cause they're doing something.
And that was like, okay. Yep. Alright. Um, and as I said, I really didn't know until I had somebody else confirm it and because my podcast guests mainly confirmed it because like they would be in the life in the between lives. So I can't say life between life 'cause that's trademark between lives where. Uh, their spirit guides would come in and they, and Archangel [00:43:00] Michael kept coming in and in again, and Archangel Michael, like, I had one client, miles, and he would say, oh, by the way, Archangel Michael's just tipped his hat and said, well done.
And I'm like, is he being sarcastic? And he's like, yeah. And I see Archangel Michael as a personality, and I see him as a man, man in a suit with tails and a top hat. And he's always sarcastic to me. And I know that's not the way other people see him, but he banters to me like I'm a brother.
Belinda Heit: Mm-hmm.
Katische Haberfield: Um, other angels are, don't get that same sort of thing.
It's a much more reverent sort of a, sort of a thing. But Archangel Michael, he just, he will play jokes, he'll be sarcastic, he'll tell people some funny things. Um, and sometimes I don't understand them. I don't say, for example, don't see them in the flesh. Like say Lorna does, who's a famous medium who sees.
Uh, angels in Ireland. For me, it's um, an energy that [00:44:00] I can feel beside me. I guess the most real one would be I was driving to the sunny coast and, uh, I was driving on the left hand lane, so going to towards, um, Calandra.
Belinda Heit: Mm-hmm.
Katische Haberfield: And, uh, there was a b double driving beside me. Now the B double didn't have any of the trailers on it just had the, you know, where the, i's gonna say caboose, wrong word.
It just had the planks where the cab where it should be two Yeah. Cabs. Yeah, that's it. And he started, uh, to come up the right hand lane beside me and then started to move in and I thought, I'm gonna die. Because he had not judged the distance between, he'd forgotten about the fact that he didn't have cabs on and just, you know, it was just him.
And he just pulled in and I held on for dear life, trying not to get, like the car was moving off the road at 120 kilometers an hour. And suddenly I felt, felt this force that [00:45:00] just came in and pushed the semi-trailer away, the B oh oh a. And he then moved in, in front properly and this car drove up beside me and she was just like,
Belinda Heit: yeah.
Katische Haberfield: And I was like, oh. And the second occasion was when, uh, I was driving, uh, out to have coffee with some friends out at Pullenvale. And my friend has a, a coffee shop there. And on the way back I was. In three lanes of traffic. There was no one either side of me. So I was in the middle lane and um, I was stopped at the lights and I had hands free, but I was talking to a friend who I, um, she'd just rung and I'd done a hands free and the bus came screaming down the hill, didn't put its, um, brakes on.
It [00:46:00] could have moved either left or right, but it just went wham into the back of my car. And it should have broke a lot. It should have hurt me. I should have gone flying through the windscreen or whatever. But it was like the bus just cracked. We went up the windscreen and then, um, I was just stunned. And all these old ladies came ing under the bus and they were like.
That was his fault. He did not even slow down. He did not even hit the brakes. And I thought my car's gonna be written off, like it would've been warped. But this bus full of passengers made only the slightest of impact on my car, despite the, the full force of the bus hitting me. And I knew, it took me a while 'cause I was just so shaken.
But I knew a couple of days later my, that Michael was there in the middle. Wow. And um, so for me, uh, now that I've [00:47:00] learned to communicate with them on a hourly, daily basis, they're around. But prior to that, they were there to say, not now, not time to die. Now you've still got stuff to do.
Belinda Heit: I, um, I used to host another podcast actually with a.
A psychic and he told me a story. Um, we got very deep into this story, uh, one day, um, of a friend of his who was in hospital and they saw, I don't know whether it was Archangel Michael or another one, appear at the end of the bed, and it was like the true traditional angel with the wings, the whole nine yards and, um, left feathers behind the whole thing.
Mm-hmm. When we finished that podcast and he left, there was a white feather on my front doorstep. Oh, yep. They're amazing. And I was just like, what [00:48:00] the, and he said, I'm always getting white feathers left behind. And I was like, okay. Like this is the stuff that happens, you know, it's just incredible.
Katische Haberfield: Yeah, so I've only had a white feather once.
So for me it's, it's not that way. But, um, yeah, they appear. However, it helps you understand that they're there in whatever form. So if you want 'em to look like a ballerina, they'll look like a ballerina.
Belinda Heit: Mm-hmm.
Katische Haberfield: Um, and if they, um, want to leave you signs that are important to you, then they will leave the signs that are going to help you believe Mm, not anybody else.
So it'll be things that are significant to you and they can be also significant to other people, but it will be the thing that goes, okay,
Belinda Heit: mm,
Katische Haberfield: I, I, I'm starting to believe now, or, that seems valid to me. And as you, it depends, you know, how much evidence you wanted. So for me, they've been like, okay, you're an [00:49:00] evidence-based person, but you also believe so we are gonna put all these clues in everything that you do until you realize.
That it's part of what you are here for. And until you can bridge that barrier of fear to say, not only can I have say Archangel Michael as a spirit guide. 'cause uh, the first person I connected to, uh, uh, was Buddha Shaima. Uh, I woke up crying for him. Then I connected to Jesus and I can, Jesus does appear in the house.
Wow. Um, he's got a very special position in the stairs. And even the cat sees, um, my cat can see spirits. Um, and um, but for me it was, I then had to lose that safety net. Of Archangel Michael, which is, I was crying my eyes. No. Um, he's like, settle down, got somebody else to introduce you. And Archangel Zal [00:50:00] came in and I'm like, who's he?
I don't even know him. Is he not one of the big dudes? And he's like, oh, you know, he is the archangel in training. And well, not really, but you know, he is like my best mate. And then they're like, we want you to channel him. And I'm like, are you joking me? Like it's hard enough to believe about Archangel Michael, but you want me to turn the camera on and believe that I can speak the words?
And so the first time that I did that, you know, I was like, how am I gonna know? And then as I'm saying the stuff, he just whipped out stuff that was really deeply personal and to the point that I was like, are you serious? Like, are we really saying that live? Um. Uh, and I guess one of the funny things was, you know, like he decided to teach about animals for a while.
I think it was like a safe, easy, um, topic for me. And, uh, he decided to do an episode on the lessons of my two [00:51:00] dogs. And I knew that it was impartial and there's no way I could make it up. When he started to tell me about how, um, from his perspective, if I was my, if he was my ex-husband, he'd, he'd also be partly on his side too.
'cause I was bloody nasty to him as he was nasty to me. And I was like, well, I wouldn't have said that myself. So, yeah. You know, little stuff like that where you're like. Uh, and like they explained the significance and, you know, I was caught up with this, my dog and the illness and how my, the dog died when he was with my ex-husband.
And he's like, you don't understand that that dog came in to help you heal. And then specifically he had a so sole contract with your ex-husband. And so before he could die, he had to finish that off to help your ex-husband heal.
Belinda Heit: Mm.
Katische Haberfield: And he's, he's remarried and everything now, so it's like, oh, poor doggy.
But you did your job well. Like, you know, he got remarried, so well done. Um, me not so much, you [00:52:00] know, maybe in the future too. Could do the angels. Yeah. Um, but yeah, like it's, when they tell you stuff and you know, you're under lights, camera, action, and you are like, ah, yeah, I couldn't have, I could not have even.
Had an agenda to say that, because that was something so revealing that I wouldn't have wanted to say it, but you've showed it to me in a way that I've actually learned something at the same time. So, you know, I've, I've, I've even cried in channeling because they've used myself as an example and I'm like, why are you doing this to me?
And they're like, well, you put a camera on your clients and put it on a podcast with their permission. So come on. Fair, fair cheeky, aren't they right? They're very cheeky. Yeah, they're very cheeky. Well, and also that's because, um, I have a very serious personality and like my storefront is very serious, but I'm also very cheeky and sarcastic and, um, you know, all of those, I like to have fun, but I also have structure and [00:53:00] procedures and you have to do things right.
And there's serious implications and there's limiting beliefs and there's body ghosts and, you know, red hats, and we've gotta deal with that. But they're like, righto, downtime. Let's have some fun. And I'm like. Oh, okay. All right. Take the serious hat off for a minute and I'll, I'll just be that, uh, inner child who likes to be curious and, um, find out interesting things.
And Righto. Let's go on adventure. And I'm a little bit scared, but, uh, you know, you're by my side, so it'll be all right, mate.
Belinda Heit: No, Kish. I, um, I am absolutely fascinated when I talk to people who can read energy or who can heal or who, um, have medium, um, capacity or can channel in any way. Um, and I fully appreciate how, um, taxing it can be on us as, as physical humans.
Um, but I also do like to be cheeky and, and ask whether you have any capacity to read energy [00:54:00] for us tonight or to share a message with us that you find. I keep getting feedback and I, I feel like it's another being in here. Um, okay. That, um, what are they, what are they saying? I, I, I don't know. It's just whispers.
Um, but whispers. Okay. Anything that you'd share, would you like, would you like me to tap into the whispers for you? Oh, please go ahead.
Katische Haberfield: Okay. Which should be fun. So, uh, the, I'll just explain it while I'm doing it. I'm
Belinda Heit: getting very sweaty at the moment, by the way as well. Yeah,
Katische Haberfield: too. You're very hot. Um, so I wait for the heart base energy to go first.
So I've got to like allow my heart chara to, to open up so that I can know that, um, here, there we go. That the information coming through is pure, un intended. Well, and
I look over here because that's when I focus and then I look, I divide my mind into four quadrants. [00:55:00] And so I say upstairs, um, on my left hand side is. Uh, soul family or spirit family for you? Downstairs, left hand side is spirit animals, uh, right hand side. Bottom, lower quadrant for me is, um, somebody who hasn't passed, be it an animal or a, um, loved one right hand, right upstairs quadrant is the archangels.
And then where it can be confusing is if it's a past life connection. 'cause I bring through car past lives as well. And then I say masculine and feminine. So for me, masculine, feminine. And I, the first thing I got was he, he, he says
he's sorry that he couldn't come through sooner. He was waiting [00:56:00] for the right time. I'd like to let you know the impact you had on his life and that
he wishes that he'd known you longer. I'm getting a sense of sadness, like there was meant to be more done together in this lifetime, but that he made a choice that he could say. He now, well, he's in the light, but he would say if he was a human, he would say he does regret, but he doesn't regret it now because he's seen the repercussions of that incident that day.
And although you may not perhaps [00:57:00] remember it right now. You will remember it tonight, and he does apologize if it does make you cry, but he says that sometimes we can touch people. Oh, I think this is to do with your non-spiritual job. We can touch people in ways that seem mundane or transactional or to do with paperwork and finance and things that other people would consider boring, but there was something that you did as a decision that if he had understood the implications and how he could have used that information to change and transform his world rather than reacting in rage and anger.
Then [00:58:00] he wouldn't have needed to use that substance that night and things might have ended differently. So there's nothing for you to regret, uh, as only just thank yous and as he said, um, you have a connection that is not expl explainable in this here time, but you have repaid a kindness from another time and he has repaid a kindness to you.
So if you wanna talk about karma, then fair, fair and fair square, but never overlook. And this is the message for the listeners. Never overlook. The simple kindness that explaining procedures [00:59:00] can have on people. But that also, if people aren't ready to listen, then it doesn't matter how many times you can explain or how many copies of things you can give them.
But uh, the intention was there and he thanks you and goodnight. Wow. So I don't know what your other job is, but if it involves paperwork, then hopefully that will make sense eventually. Mm.
Belinda Heit: Where I'm thinking it is, is not where I think it is anyway. Or who I think it is.
Katische Haberfield: Yeah. So he was like trying to show me that he was like a customer or a client, like a client customer or like, um.
Yeah, I see an office.
Belinda Heit: Mm-hmm. And
Katische Haberfield: like you said, it was, um,
an analogy would [01:00:00] be, and it's not the right analogy, but an analogy would be, you know how like bank managers see a lot of customers in their daily lives and they have so many forms that they've got to get them to fill out to open accounts or to, uh, do a credit card or whatever it is. Mm. And sometimes there can be a long queue and, um, you can be tired and you can be wanting to go and have your lunch break and, um, so the customer will come, you'll be like, here's your staff.
I've gotta go. Does that make sense? And they're like, yes. And you won't know the impact that you've had on that your life because it will be inconsequential to you. But so what he's. He's come back a bit. He said what he wants to tell you is, okay, so the concept of soul families, you can like, like I never knew Meghan in my real life until I, um, [01:01:00] went on her podcast chasing spirituality, and then she came on my podcast.
And then we discovered a past life. So if you wanted to say, my soul family was my family here that I was born into, you would say that she's not my soul family. Right. Because she didn't come into physical contact with me.
Belinda Heit: Mm-hmm.
Katische Haberfield: But sometimes we can have people that are an auntie or a teacher, or even somebody in the street who's being sent to be in the background.
Belinda Heit: Mm.
Katische Haberfield: And so what he is telling you is that he was just a peripheral character. Mm. And his decision meant that he exited faster than he should have and that there was a potential for that person. To have played a more move forward in the stadium as he's showing me move from the back row to the next rows in.
Um, and he doesn't wanna elaborate what that could have been, but there was a potential for a greater interaction based on [01:02:00] his actions, not yours. Mm-hmm. And so you did everything right in this lifetime based on what you'd agreed upon. And he made that choice to not be open and not to listen. And so he went down this pathway instead of that pathway.
And the part of him that can see his human self says, ah, fuck, I miss that opportunity. 'cause we didn't do that second layer of things that we could have done. Mm. And so I'm sorry for that because that would've been fun.
Belinda Heit: Yeah.
Katische Haberfield: But, oh, well I guess we'll try next time, but thanks anyway.
Belinda Heit: Mm.
Katische Haberfield: So you can see what I mean by like, my mediumship is a bit different because.
You couldn't pinpoint who that is, but that person wants to remain anonymous.
Belinda Heit: Mm.
Katische Haberfield: But they also, I could feel their sadness, but they wanted to specifically point out that they were in the light and that it wouldn't make sense to you. But at some stage, when you are ready in a dream, they will visit [01:03:00] you and it will all make sense.
Belinda Heit: Mm.
Katische Haberfield: So it is a past life connection. And that is, um, important because, uh, our whole premise has been how we are connected in other lifetimes. And that's how I came to you, through Megan. And so he's saying, he's saying Don't be surprised if there's another connection that you should be thinking is bleeding obvious, um, that will come through.
And he said that because my cat is sitting underneath the table very quietly. And, um, with podcast episodes, max comes in when there's, uh, somebody that he's known. It's funny, my is very famous for knowing people that,
Belinda Heit: because when you started, I, like, I felt it in my heart space, like I was gonna cry and then, then I just had peace.
Like I just, it all just went. And my dog, who's quite old, she's sitting behind me, um, she went and wandered around the room and sat right behind me and is now back in a bit.
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Belinda Heit: Yeah, she, she hardly moves all day. She moved, so there you go.
Katische Haberfield: Yeah. So, yeah, to be continued, who
Belinda Heit: knows? They know. And there's, there's more to this clearly,
Katische Haberfield: but yeah. Animals know, you know, and animals know. Mm. They know the energy and they know, you know, see, like. They also know, okay, there's energy coming into mom's space.
Mm. Do I need to be on guard or can [01:05:00] I sense this energy from my own heart? And do I need to help them? Because if they needed to help you, they would come close and physically touch you. Um, and if they needed to be on guard, um, they might, uh, show you that there was something negative in the room. There was something worrisome, like my cat can see all the different kind of entities, but the fact that they, your dog went to sleep and my cat is under my feet asleep and my cat is notorious for, excuse me, jumping up onto the laptop and rubbing up against me.
Um, or even just leaving the room. But if there's something, um, that there's beneficial connection, he will stay. So, yeah. And, and yeah, max has been, uh, has come up in a lot of, uh, my clients' past lives, um, as their, as a, a former cat, um, of theirs. So, yeah, particularly in Egyptian past lives.
Belinda Heit: Wow.
Katische Haberfield: [01:06:00] Um,
Belinda Heit: uh, it's just, yeah.
Yeah. So mind blowing stuff. Um, now Kish, I know we've been talking about your podcast and, uh, you, you've done some writing as well. Do you wanna tell us about those before we wrap it up? Uh, and if people want to connect and listen to the other work you're doing, where can they go?
Katische Haberfield: Yeah, so just to my website, which is kish.com, you'll find everything there.
Um. The current thing is poetry. I've just started to write poems just for fun. Um, but they are for me, uh, a way of getting insights into other lifetimes. So it's a new way of doing it. It's a bit strange, it's a bit weird. It's a bit fun. Um, so we'll see where that goes.
Belinda Heit: Nice. Well, uh, I'm gonna ask you the next question.
I can't, I can't wait to see what this answer is. What's the change you'd like to see in the world and how can we bring it to life?
Katische Haberfield: Uh, the change that I'd like to see in the, in the world is for people to [01:07:00] move from fear and acting out of fear into love. And let me tell you, I struggle with it all the time.
So, um, what they tell me all the time is put one hand on your heart and one hand on your tummy.
Belinda Heit: Mm-hmm.
Katische Haberfield: Just let the energy of your own hands calm you down. You feel really bad still ask for your guardian angel to come and give you a cuddle. Mm. I know it's really weird, but if I'm really stressed or afraid, I will ask my guardian angel to come line next to me and take a deep breath in, listen to some music.
So for me it's like the, uh, the cello or the, um, the book Shruti box. And, um, just let the sound waves carry you and know that on the other side of fear is excitement. And when we follow our excitement, our passion and our curiosity will lead to love.
Belinda Heit: Absolutely love that. Kish, my cheeks are still [01:08:00] hurting from smiling with you.
Um, this has just been absolutely incredible and I'm glad we finally made it happen after two years. Thank you so much for being a part of the ethical evolution.
Katische Haberfield: No, thank you. And good luck with your, um, musical launch. Namaste.
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